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#101
Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:40 PM
#102
Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:41 PM
#103
Posted 14 July 2009 - 06:11 PM
#104
Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:33 PM
Yes if your class has high counts spread the wealth. If your classes counts are down it wont be as good of payout but, It will help classes from being cut all together? That was the main focus keep everybody doing what they love. Nobody can keep a buisness/track going if they loose money each and every time the doors/gates open. I hear that tracks are closing due to financial troubles, so in the end who looses if that track doesnt make a go of it? The fans loose because they cant watch. Promoter looses his well I cant post that.....we will say butt. Us Racers/Owners loose the most because reguardless how pretty your race car/race truck looks they make the ugliest and most expencive yard ornaments!Yet again another good idea regarding the payout. I know that some wouldn't like that format but it makes it fair to the track and the racers. hecke I would even say to make it fair that if the class got over 25~30 cars to pay a little more to win just to balance the good case/bad case out. In other words reward them for having high car counts but penalize for low counts.
I've also read in Circle Track magazine where a track pays all the drivers the same amount but compensates with a nice points fund. What you would do is divide the 20 car total purse by 20 and that would be the accross the board payout for each A-Main qualifier. IDK....just tossing that out there.
I like the thought of the payout adjustment that Tom mentioned though!
We dont all have to agree and this isnt about weather or not you like Dean/track officials.Its about the track.I know the payout adjustment idea will have some peoples blood boiling but if the track closes then we wont have any payout to worry about.And like Dean said from the first time we got together as a class over the winter. This is our track its up to us what we do with it.(meaning us drivers)So, I wanna race and learn & someday I will win.You all think Matt has moves just wait till The Punkin busts a move! lol Trust me I wont do that to you.Unless Crown Royal sponsors the race then I cant make any promises??!
#105
Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:34 PM
However, there are a multitude of signs all along all of the state routes I have ever been on!
Was it a 'set back' issue, no permit, or what was the states problem with the sign?
It was kind of funny the one day, a girl was from Waynesfield so I mentioned the track and she acted like she had no idea what I was talking about.
I was talking to a guy today about many people coming up with ideas to try to get more people to go to Waynesfield. And he said "Run a special where anyone with a Waynesfield address gets in for $5....just have them show their drivers license as proof. Put up signs in all the businesses in Waynesfield, and have the Post Office slip papers in the PO boxes, stuff like that" was what he said.
I used to work with a guy that lived within 4 miles of Eldora, and had never went there. Monday mornings he would say "They were doing some racing deal at that Eldora place over the weekend....there was a lot of traffic, and I could hear the noise, damn near all night it seemed"...I would ask him "Don't you ever wonder what happens there, at least enough to go and see it at least once?" He would say "Well yeah, but I heard it was expensive, like a NASCAR race or something"....He couldn't believe it when I told him "No, most times it's less than $20 to get in"
I imagine there are lots of people within a few miles of WRP, that don't know what is happening......almost in their own back yards!
#106
Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:47 PM
Think about it..... 5-6 classes every night would give people the biggest variety of racing in the area.
I don't think that is the way to go....it sounds good in theory, but is not really practical.
The shows drag on, and believe it or not, it gets boring.
It's kind of a given that most places run 3 classes....a 'headliner' (usually sprints -of what ever flavor- or late models), and a 'mid range' class, then an 'economy' class (even though nothing is really 'cheap' to race anymore)
One of the great things at WRP is the speed of the shows. I believe that would be lost if you went to any more classes per night.
#107
Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:56 AM
#108
Posted 15 July 2009 - 08:58 AM
#109
Posted 15 July 2009 - 03:51 PM
I don't think that is the way to go....it sounds good in theory, but is not really practical.
The shows drag on, and believe it or not, it gets boring.
It's kind of a given that most places run 3 classes....a 'headliner' (usually sprints -of what ever flavor- or late models), and a 'mid range' class, then an 'economy' class (even though nothing is really 'cheap' to race anymore)
One of the great things at WRP is the speed of the shows. I believe that would be lost if you went to any more classes per night.
no offense to you and im not trying to start up some big explosion are anything but no race ever gets boring especially at a dirt track so you must not be as big of a fan as you think there need for speed
#110
Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:15 PM
Id pay to see that. You were close to winning a few times, ive seen the video on youtube.You all think Matt has moves just wait till The Punkin busts a move! lol Trust me I wont do that to you.Unless Crown Royal sponsors the race then I cant make any promises??!
#111
Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:39 PM
no offense to you and im not trying to start up some big explosion are anything but no race ever gets boring especially at a dirt track so you must not be as big of a fan as you think there need for speed
The last part of your comment, contradicts the first part, there shady bucks.............
Evidently you have never been to Shady Bowl.
Shady Bowl is not a dirt track, I'll give you that, but.........
They used to run LMs, Mods, Pro Stocks, Street Stocks, Mini Stocks, and Dwarfs....that is 6 classes. The first race started at 7PM, and by the time you have seen countless crashes, a couple of blown engines, a few yellows for cars stopping with flat tires, and multiple spin outs, you are sitting there until 3AM or later (or earlier, however you want to look at it) in order to see all the racing...--you are pretty much bored out of your mind, and/or dead tired, and/or don't care, and you are damn near the only fan left in the stands--. Most people started leaving at 11:30 PM, and the people with kids were leaving a little before that.
There has been articles by the featured columnists in NATIONAL SPEED SPORT NEWS about this same issue...too many 'support classes' at the short tracks, and how that takes too long for the show to be run, and fans leave before the racing is completed.
From what I have heard, the Bowl is all but dead this year...down to 9 Mods from 30-40/week, etc. I heard the opening week this year they had like 65 total fans in the stands, and even less cars in the pits.
#112
Posted 15 July 2009 - 09:48 PM
#113
Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:14 AM
Thats ok Rog I wouldnt expect any lessPlease dont let The Punkin dance. I can just hear everybody now. MY EYES, MY EYES, sorry Tom I just had to.
#114
Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:10 AM
The last part of your comment, contradicts the first part, there shady bucks.............
Evidently you have never been to Shady Bowl.
Shady Bowl is not a dirt track, I'll give you that, but.........
They used to run LMs, Mods, Pro Stocks, Street Stocks, Mini Stocks, and Dwarfs....that is 6 classes. The first race started at 7PM, and by the time you have seen countless crashes, a couple of blown engines, a few yellows for cars stopping with flat tires, and multiple spin outs, you are sitting there until 3AM or later (or earlier, however you want to look at it) in order to see all the racing...--you are pretty much bored out of your mind, and/or dead tired, and/or don't care, and you are damn near the only fan left in the stands--. Most people started leaving at 11:30 PM, and the people with kids were leaving a little before that.
There has been articles by the featured columnists in NATIONAL SPEED SPORT NEWS about this same issue...too many 'support classes' at the short tracks, and how that takes too long for the show to be run, and fans leave before the racing is completed.
From what I have heard, the Bowl is all but dead this year...down to 9 Mods from 30-40/week, etc. I heard the opening week this year they had like 65 total fans in the stands, and even less cars in the pits.
the only non dirt track i go to is winchester and i havent been there since i was really little so this proves nothing to me beings asphalt track just arent the same as dirt tracks
#115
Posted 16 July 2009 - 04:38 PM
the only non dirt track i go to is winchester and i havent been there since i was really little so this proves nothing to me beings asphalt track just arent the same as dirt tracks
I don't know how old you are, but you apparently haven't been to Winchester in quite a while....too bad, as you have missed some excellent races.
Anderson IN hosts the Little 500. 33 sprint cars starting in 11 rows of 3, and going 500 laps around a 1/4 mile track, with a minimum of 2 mandatory pit stops. It's a hell of a race, but apparently you've never seen it, or even been there......'course it's a paved track, and we all know 'it's just not the same'
I've been to KC, Butler, IN State Fairgrounds, Shady Bowl, Knoxville, Winchester, Lawrenceburg, Gas City, IRP, Fremont, Baer Field, Toledo, Limaland and the current LMP, Kil-Kare, Bloomington, IRP, Millstream, Eldora, Wayne Co., Anderson, and Waynesfield, (under Edit, also New Bremen when it was dirt and pavement, Sandusky, Tri-County/Queen City, Dayton, and Salem...and I'm SURE I'm forgetting some more)...to see Champ Dirt cars, Sprint cars, and Midgets race on dirt and pavement Plus watching indoor races at the Ft. Wayne Coliseum and at the Expo Center, Hoosier Dome, Cincinnati Gardens, OH State Fairgrounds, Hara Arena, and Wright State University's Nutter Center
Let alone INDY during the days of USAC CART and the IRL sanction, Michigan International and INDY For NASCAR, IRP for the NHRA U.S. Nationals
Not to mention countless horse races, go-kart races, dirt bike races, flat track motorcycle races, soap box derbies, etc, etc...
And God only knows how many races I have seen on TV from all over.
All since 1972.....
I don't know why you felt the need to make your "so you must not be as big of a fan as you think" comment. You don't go to races on paved tracks...so what does that prove about how big of a race fan you are?
Edited by Need for Speed, 16 July 2009 - 11:45 PM.
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