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[OGRE]

I know of an old timer Late Model driver that drove one handed for years.....his name is Wayne Watercutter and he drives on asphalt. Like Compact racer said...the front wheel drive cars are more capable of being driven one handed just based on pure Geometry. Compacts are a staple at most tracks now and have been meant to either allow a racer as another form of cheap racing or a youngster to develop. Look, we have no age or talent specifications on our classes at WRP because it's not about how many years you've been racing or how old you are....it's about the pure joy of racing. As for the stocks, I'm going to speak on my behalf only here not on behalf of WRP. I have raced stocks in the past and I have many friends that still race stocks yet today. In my opinion the stock guys have only evolved the class as the rules have allowed them to.........that being said, I think the class is no longer a stock class and it's more like a limited late class. Only problem is that they are still on DOT tires and weigh 3,000 pounds. I think for this class to survive they need to take one of two directions: 1. Allow them to run mod tires and lighten them up a little or 2. Take them back to a IMCA or UMP stock or even a factory stock. I prefer option number 1. Even with this being said I think this class has seem the numbers decline ove the years but where thay have done the best is Eldora. At Eldora they have more old school stocks that most places. Don;t get me wrong there are some limited lates at Eldora also....but overall you see more of the 70's and early 80's capero's there than anywhere else. As far as the trucks go at WRP.....why change what is working? They have proven their existance in pure numbers. Their racing is just as competitive as any other class...period!

[sprintsizzler]

By the way it looks the May 29th NRA race will be NRA -vs- SOD!!! According to the SOD schedule,they will be in Ohio for a 3 day show.(Lima,Waynesfield,Eldora) www.ascsracing.com

[shady_bucks]

By the way it looks the May 29th NRA race will be NRA -vs- SOD!!! According to the SOD schedule,they will be in Ohio for a 3 day show.(Lima,Waynesfield,Eldora)
www.ascsracing.com

Thats great news ive got a 3 year old boy who loves to watch racing and im going to take him to all 3 shows. Maybe even pitch a tent and camp at the tracks with him whats the policy at waynesfield about pitching a tent????? and while im at it are you allowed to have campfires at WRP and LMP????

[OGRE]

Speaking about WRP only, camping is always permitted. They don't have water or electric hook up though. Guess that won't matter if you're popping a tent. As far as camp fires, I've seen them and not seen them. I think Dean's rule is no campfires unless authorized by him first. We've had a couple of campfires in the pits when some racers camped in the pits but they were in fire rings and contained. I would say to inquire with Dean or Jane prior to starting a fire.

[compact racer]

I know of an old timer Late Model driver that drove one handed for years.....his name is Wayne Watercutter and he drives on asphalt. Like Compact racer said...the front wheel drive cars are more capable of being driven one handed just based on pure Geometry. Compacts are a staple at most tracks now and have been meant to either allow a racer as another form of cheap racing or a youngster to develop. Look, we have no age or talent specifications on our classes at WRP because it's not about how many years you've been racing or how old you are....it's about the pure joy of racing.

As for the stocks, I'm going to speak on my behalf only here not on behalf of WRP. I have raced stocks in the past and I have many friends that still race stocks yet today. In my opinion the stock guys have only evolved the class as the rules have allowed them to.........that being said, I think the class is no longer a stock class and it's more like a limited late class. Only problem is that they are still on DOT tires and weigh 3,000 pounds. I think for this class to survive they need to take one of two directions: 1. Allow them to run mod tires and lighten them up a little or 2. Take them back to a IMCA or UMP stock or even a factory stock. I prefer option number 1. Even with this being said I think this class has seem the numbers decline ove the years but where thay have done the best is Eldora. At Eldora they have more old school stocks that most places. Don;t get me wrong there are some limited lates at Eldora also....but overall you see more of the 70's and early 80's capero's there than anywhere else.

As far as the trucks go at WRP.....why change what is working? They have proven their existance in pure numbers. Their racing is just as competitive as any other class...period!

I wish they had a pure stock class like 5.0 camero's and mustangs newer strut style.

[citeach]

By the way it looks the May 29th NRA race will be NRA -vs- SOD!!! According to the SOD schedule,they will be in Ohio for a 3 day show.(Lima,Waynesfield,Eldora)
www.ascsracing.com

Awesome, i was hoping to get out to waynesfield this year more, but at least i'll be there for all the NRA shows!!!

[Dr. Speedy]

My take on it is that is CHEAPER to pay-off two lesser classes for less than you can pay-off one fast and more entertaining class. As far as mini sprints, i could do without them. Put midgets out there instead. Stock cars and mods helped bring the track to where it is. And they got screwed because of scheduling screw ups among other things. It would be hard to get them to show up at waynesfield, and you couldn't blame them. just my take on this

[Need for Speed]

The 'stock cars' of today ARE the Compacts! It's been the mid/late 1980's since GM and Ford has built RWD cars normally used for 'stock cars', except for the Camaro/Firebirds of the early 2000s. I've seen a few Thunderbirds and a couple of old Mustangs What else has there been? NASCAR is putting decals of current FWD/4 door/V6 engine car names, on a spec body RWD chassis with a V8 engine...and have been forced to for several years now, because of what the auto makers are producing these days. With all the cars that have been made into stock cars, frames cut up to make a modified, made into drag cars, crashed on the roadways, and just plain rusted into the ground...the pickins' are getting slim. If a 70s or 80s RWD car is in decent shape at all, people are holding on to them, and even restoring them now. Also, you can have a Mod for not a whole lot more than a stock, PLUS the payouts for the Mods is a heck of a lot better than it is for stock cars. The stock cars are dying off. Kinda like the Mini Stock class of the 70s and early 80s did. Where do they run Vegas, Pintos, etc. these days.........

[ramrodd00]

My take on it is that is CHEAPER to pay-off two lesser classes for less than you can pay-off one fast and more entertaining class. As far as mini sprints, i could do without them. Put midgets out there instead.
Stock cars and mods helped bring the track to where it is. And they got screwed because of scheduling screw ups among other things. It would be hard to get them to show up at waynesfield, and you couldn't blame them. just my take on this

If you were a promoter, why would you keep a class that can't bring enough cars and fans to pay for itself. At least the truck and compact guys appreciate the chance to get to race when they're at the track. All I heard from the stock car guys was how bad WRP screwed them at the All Star show by moving them in the order of events. The last I had heard, and I'm sure theres someone who can confirm this, the stocks were moved one spot in the order of events that night.
Hell, I'm surprised the stocks are even at Lima again this year, I heard they were going away and being replaced there too. Maybe they'll bring in some midgets to Lima, and let em wrestle in a mud pit in the infield.......or am I thinking of the wrong kind of midget?

[shady_bucks]

If you were a promoter, why would you keep a class that can't bring enough cars and fans to pay for itself. At least the truck and compact guys appreciate the chance to get to race when they're at the track. All I heard from the stock car guys was how bad WRP screwed them at the All Star show by moving them in the order of events. The last I had heard, and I'm sure theres someone who can confirm this, the stocks were moved one spot in the order of events that night.
Hell, I'm surprised the stocks are even at Lima again this year, I heard they were going away and being replaced there too. Maybe they'll bring in some midgets to Lima, and let em wrestle in a mud pit in the infield.......or am I thinking of the wrong kind of midget?

I was at the WRP All star show last year and they took the stocks and made them wait until all the sprint action was done and then allowed them to go out on the track it was pathetic. Had i been a stock car guy i would have been mad about it also. It was not the stocks fault the track was messed up that was Waynesfields fault. The track was horrible and because of that they pushed the stocks to the end of the show. I understand why the All stars wanted to get their show done as fast as possible. But for WRP to take the stocks completely off the schedule because of their staff not having the track in good condition that night is completely wrong.

Im not trying to make people mad im just stating my opinion on the matter. I know WRP had a lot of nights last year where the track was in great condition. But the big night for the all star speedweek was horrible and WRP took their mistake that night out on the stock cars.

[racer50]

Not to argue just stating facts. The night of the Allstar race the track crew got the track too wet to begin with. When the stocks came out for hot laps they did rut the track up pretty bad. Most of the people that came that night came to watch the sprints. I think the track did the only thing they could by keeping the stocks off of it until the sprints were done or it would have ruined the whole night. The track was perfect for the Sprint Feature and was some very good racing. Yes it did suck for the stock guys but I don't think the track had any other chose. As far as droping them I don't know that it was anything but the lack of cars.

[AK1]

Just like Rod said, the stocks were moved one spot in the schedule the night of the All Star show. I still have the schedule of events right here at my desk. Yes we did get the track too wet, it was forecast to be a 90 degree sunny day and we ended up with more humidity and cloud cover than we expected. Unfortunately that left the track softer than what it would have normally been and the 3000lb stock cars on 8 inch tires did cause some rutting, so they were moved one spot in the order, so hopefully the track would come around. As far as them being removed from the schedule entirely, I can't say 100% why. That ultimately is/was Dean's decision and I for one support it. And that's coming from someone who is the son of a former Limaland track champ in the stock cars, and part of a family who's roots are firmly planted in the dirt at Limaland, Eldora, New Bremen, Millstream and others when it comes to stock cars. Bottom Line is that they're gone and that's the way it's gonna be, at least for the immediate future. If you want to keep beating a dead horse, that's your right, but at least make sure your facts are straight. Gerry

[voyager]

Gerry, sorry that you agree with this. I am a fan of one guy that races the stock cars, and this one guys brings a lot of fans that just follow him (don't know if he knows it or not). Night of the All Stars was a joke. You guys ruined the track, nobody else.

[AK1]

Gerry, sorry that you agree with this. I am a fan of one guy that races the stock cars, and this one guys brings a lot of fans that just follow him (don't know if he knows it or not). Night of the All Stars was a joke. You guys ruined the track, nobody else.

Here. If you want to beat the horse. Here's the thread to do it.

http://racestud.com/...t...=23196&st=0

[OGRE]

This is a great schedule Dean & Jane!!! I just wanted to get back to the subject title. We look forward to a very exciting season and the fact that we have Dean and Jane back for another year.....oh and the friendly photographer and announcer too =)

[compact racer]

This is a great schedule Dean & Jane!!!

I just wanted to get back to the subject title.

We look forward to a very exciting season and the fact that we have Dean and Jane back for another year.....oh and the friendly photographer and announcer too =)

Amen well said.

[shady_bucks]

Just like Rod said, the stocks were moved one spot in the schedule the night of the All Star show. I still have the schedule of events right here at my desk. Yes we did get the track too wet, it was forecast to be a 90 degree sunny day and we ended up with more humidity and cloud cover than we expected. Unfortunately that left the track softer than what it would have normally been and the 3000lb stock cars on 8 inch tires did cause some rutting, so they were moved one spot in the order, so hopefully the track would come around.

As far as them being removed from the schedule entirely, I can't say 100% why. That ultimately is/was Dean's decision and I for one support it. And that's coming from someone who is the son of a former Limaland track champ in the stock cars, and part of a family who's roots are firmly planted in the dirt at Limaland, Eldora, New Bremen, Millstream and others when it comes to stock cars.

Bottom Line is that they're gone and that's the way it's gonna be, at least for the immediate future. If you want to keep beating a dead horse, that's your right, but at least make sure your facts are straight.

Gerry

No one stated any facts that were wrong did they???? I simply wrote that you guys pushed the stock car guys behind all the sprint racing which i thought was wrong. Every sprint guy that was in the pits that night paid $25 just like every stock car guy that was in the pits that night. You guys screwed the track up and took it out on the stock car guys which to me is pathetic. I think its cool your admitting you were wrong but when you wrote "make sure your facts are straight" the facts were straight you guys did push the stocks completely behind the sprints that night.

[OGRE]

Just to make sure we stay on track with the subject title.......WRP should be the place to be this summer on most Satuday's and some Sunday's. Come join the fun!!! Make sure to stop by and purchase a picture from the friendly photgrapher and pick up a hotdog in the concession stand then sit back and listen to the energetic and enthusiastic race announcer call the show. Better than Bowman Gray Stadium (Madhouse) anyday!!

[dirt star]

No one stated any facts that were wrong did they???? I simply wrote that you guys pushed the stock car guys behind all the sprint racing which i thought was wrong. Every sprint guy that was in the pits that night paid $25 just like every stock car guy that was in the pits that night. You guys screwed the track up and took it out on the stock car guys which to me is pathetic. I think its cool your admitting you were wrong but when you wrote "make sure your facts are straight" the facts were straight you guys did push the stocks completely behind the sprints that night.

I do not no why you would critize a track that is bringing a variety of racing action to Waynesfield Raceway Park. What is pathetic is you piss and moan over something that is done and over with. This topic is about the 2010 schedule not all star sprint week 2009

[skinnykenny]

Way back when I raced stocks (bombers) I ran Eldora one night during a WOO show. Anybody want to take a guess at what happened? We weren't allowed on the track to hotlap until the entire sprint show was completed!!! And....we had 2 Bmains that night!! Each Bmain had more cars in it than Waynesfield had stocks that showed up for any show this past season. Do you really think Eldora would have kept running stocks all these years if only 13 cars showed up each week? Nope....not a chance!!! Even though Eldora can't afford to pay the stockcars as much as the other tracks, it looks bad when a track only gets half a field of cars to show up. And it sounds bad when drivers cry about not being on the schedule and didn't show up when they were on the schedule!!! Too bad we don't have 13 different tracks running stocks on the same night. That way all of the cars could go to different tracks and everybody could get 1st place! But some stock guy would still cry about something. Racing would be fun for you guys if you could see thru your own tears.......