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[AK1]

We have been forced to cancel tonight's racing activities due to rain. The make up UMP Modified and Non Wing Sprint features from July 24th will be ran next Saturday August 28th. We will be back in action next Saturday night, August 28th with the Lee's Hydraulics Non Wing Sprints and Post Agri-Service UMP Modifieds in double features. Also the AMSA Mini Sprints invade the 1/3 mile clay oval. The JR and Sons Service Center Compacts will be in action as well. Pit gates open at 4PM, Grandstand gates at 5PM, Hot laps at 6:15PM, racing at 7 PM. General Admission $12 for ages 16 and older, $6 for ages 11 to 15 and kids 10 and under get in FREE. Pit pass $25 for all ages.

[AK1]

Ignore the name of the post. We are canceled for August 21st not the 28th. Will email the racestud moderators for a correction. Sorry for the inconvenience

Edited by AK1, 21 August 2010 - 01:45 PM.

[dirt track maniac]

Might as well cancel this race too. Schedule changes more here than anywhere. Oh while ya change the schedule try adding divisions that feature actual race cars. Winged sprints, late models, modifieds, stock cars, anything that can get sideways and pass would be fine with me. Mini trucks are a neat little class and non wings are good but the rest could be tossed. A regular schedule is a crazy idea I know but come on, lets try it. Dean is tryin sure...but until ya get faster cars and a regular schedule ya won't get many fans or cars.

[Austin]

Might as well cancel this race too. Schedule changes more here than anywhere. Oh while ya change the schedule try adding divisions that feature actual race cars. Winged sprints, late models, modifieds, stock cars, anything that can get sideways and pass would be fine with me. Mini trucks are a neat little class and non wings are good but the rest could be tossed. A regular schedule is a crazy idea I know but come on, lets try it. Dean is tryin sure...but until ya get faster cars and a regular schedule ya won't get many fans or cars.

your idea seems all fine and dandy but heres a few things:
Running those classes would require switching the schedule, which you complained about in your second post.
Late Models: run at Attica and Oakshade weekly. they wont draw enough of a count with these tracks running
stock cars-cut after only getting 14 every week...
the classes they have now may not get sideways, but they have excellent passing. maybe your too busy complaining to watch them or something. The non wings put on a heck of a show week in and week out.

Faster isnt always better, because without the support classes, theres no one to move up into the "premier" classes.

[patrickw]

good late models and winged 410 sprints dont run for samller purses like non wing sprints will.

[dirt track maniac]

I am talking about setting a schedule for 2011. And lets go to 360 sprints mods stocks and mini trucks. only 14 stocks? Ya wanna see barney craig tony anderson tim bowen..allison stewart hortsman..sherman post hull or ya wanna see "race cars" with horns that work and make less horsepower than lawn mowers. Support classes lmao The average race fan coulnd't care less bout mini sprints or compacts. Give 8 athletic girls and guys bicycles and they will give you a better race. Go to limaland, eldora, or freemont ask a fan to name three non wing drivers, mini sprint drivers, or compact drivers. Aint gonna happen. I agree non wing sprints are a great show at waynesfield but the average northwest ohio race fan doesn't want to pay there $12-$15 to watch them. Ya want proof? Look in the stands. The track is great, I love going there. Just don't enjoy the classes...and apparently I'm not alone.

[dirt track maniac]

And if they "scheduled" late model races on nights when eldora has 360s or on fridays in July when limaland isn't running I bet they could get cars. Just trying to come up with ideas to get fans in the stands.

[MWestfallfan54]

I dont know where you have been dirt track mania but nonwing sprints put on a 10x better show than winged sprints. Winged sprints are nothing but follow the leader around the track. I,however, do agree that compacts and trucks are no fun to watch and aren't going to get you fans, but they have a loyal following and Dean makes more money off of them then he does other classes because they race for less but they still all pay the same amount for a pitpass.

Edited by MWestfallfan54, 22 August 2010 - 12:38 PM.

[Austin]

dirt track mania, they tried all of your ideas. they all failed. which is why the new classes were brought in. to be honest with you, i like to see variety. i love the variety that waynesfield has. as for northwest ohio fans, if they are real fans, they wouldnt care what is running. Racing is racing...no matter how fast or slow the cars are. as long as they are RACING side by side, speed doesnt matter. those guys put as much blood, sweat, and tears into racing as the guys in other classes. Do you race a car? because if not, they are out there doing more than what you and I are doing...that should earn some respect. BTW, Barney Craig runs Eldora on Saturdays...Tony Anderson runs Montpelier on Saturdays...so you wont be seeing much of them if the stocks come back

Edited by Austin, 22 August 2010 - 12:49 PM.

[dirt track maniac]

If you could read I posted that non wings DO put on a great show. I didn't dispute that. What I said was around here nobody cares about watching them. They don't have the fan base in northwest ohio to support them. And if you read on you would see my complaint is that WRP doesn't have a set schedule or good enough divisions to support itself. I personally have zero problems with non wings. Oh and where have I been? following dirt track racing in this area for 25 yrs....thats all.

[dirt track maniac]

matter of fact I do race..just FYI. but to say if folks were real fans they wouldn't care what they watch is idiotic. Fans are loyal to the drivers who they like. and they PAY to watch them race. anybody who has turned some laps has my respect as do the folks who who to watch us compete. my point is in this area people aren't paying to watch non wings trucks compacts and mini sprints. ya can't change the fans. they are loyal, hard working and want to see good racing with drivers they know. mods and trucks are ok, but the rest should be scrapped. And if dean wants more fans (i.e. money) he will cater to what folks want to see.

[dirt track maniac]

SPEED DOESN'T MATTER? that comment from you is absolutely hilarious. ya watch the tour de france i imagine

[Austin]

theres a fine line between what the fans want to see and what will actually show up at the track... Dean can worry all he wants about the fans, but if theres no cars that show up, then he wont be getting any money

[MWestfallfan54]

nonwing sprints bring in more cars than winged do at Waynesfield. There aren't many 410 winged cars in Ohio that are going to come to Waynesfield, most of them are loyal to their local saturday night track, Fremont, KC, etc. They could bring in a good amount of fans if they would run nonwings,mods,and 1-2 support classes every week. Ya they had a lot of fans for the All Star show but that is because its the All Stars and it was Ohio sprint speedweek. They wouldn't get that many fans for them every week.

[dirt track maniac]

never said car count was down but when you get feature winners in victory lane acknowlege that the track needs fans its obvious that the promoter can't be happy. just want to see WRP stay in operation and at this point it doesn't look good for 2011. again..I like WRP.

[compact racer]

never said car count was down but when you get feature winners in victory lane acknowlege that the track needs fans its obvious that the promoter can't be happy. just want to see WRP stay in operation and at this point it doesn't look good for 2011. again..I like WRP.

Well maybe what Dean ought to do is this week is take the trucks mini sprint non wings and compacts off the schedual and run wing sprints and mods for the pit gate and 505 of the stands and see how that works for ya. All I know is that 175 and 75 to start has to come from some where.

[dirt track maniac]

k..knew this was comin. I ain't tryin to burst the bubble here but folks want to see race cars. and the compact class is a support class. the trucks a support class..the minis a support class. thats where your envelope comes from. the promoter makes his dough off the fans and the food. keep one or even two. but get cars thats like or you will be all parked in the garage cause no other tracks race trucks compacts or mini sprints more than once a year. oh and I bet there is a reason for that. I heard a few yrs back lima might drop stocks for trucks...aint gonna happen cause fans are bored by it. oh and truck count at lima was 17..stock count...17.

[compact racer]

k..knew this was comin. I ain't tryin to burst the bubble here but folks want to see race cars. and the compact class is a support class. the trucks a support class..the minis a support class. thats where your envelope comes from. the promoter makes his dough off the fans and the food. keep one or even two. but get cars thats like or you will be all parked in the garage cause no other tracks race trucks compacts or mini sprints more than once a year. oh and I bet there is a reason for that. I heard a few yrs back lima might drop stocks for trucks...aint gonna happen cause fans are bored by it. oh and truck count at lima was 17..stock count...17.

Thats funny. Look at Shady Bowls web site they're begging for the compacts from WRP and CMS to come and race there. Check it out .

[racing is life]

I dont know where you have been dirt track mania but nonwing sprints put on a 10x better show than winged sprints. Winged sprints are nothing but follow the leader around the track.

I,however, do agree that compacts and trucks are no fun to watch and aren't going to get you fans, but they have a loyal following and Dean makes more money off of them then he does other classes because they race for less but they still all pay the same amount for a pitpass.

i have a quote my uncle danny who raced and owned sprints for many years in the 70's and 80's. Wing sprints are for the guy's that can't handle real racing,it takes more talent to drive a non-wing sprint than it does one with a wing and all that down force.jmo

[Racer Kid 31]

How do you expect drivers to get experience without track time in something smaller? Do you want all of us compact and truck drivers to just go jump in a non wing, stock, mod, or 360?? Because if you want that, you are basically asking for more wrecks. Like i said, we drive what we do for the experience and just to have fun. And the compacts and trucks bring alot of people in the pits. Last time i checked $25 is more than $12. Besides, with the economy the way it is, it would be nearly impossible for us "support class" drivers to go out and buy a sprint, stock, or mod. And what would happen, is we would either get our equipment tore up, or not make the a, then we would go home empty handed and not be able to race the next week. Trucks are waynesfield's signature, one of them anyway, they are one of the classes that started WRP. My dad raced a truck many years and he loved it. He has driven a stock and a truck, and has never complained that the trucks were too slow. So dont come on here bashing us compact and truck drivers because face it, we all have to start somewhere. Oh and by the way, waynesfield, shadybowl, oakshade, and toledo are some of the few who race compacts more than once a year. And i dont care if some of the race tracks arent dirt, because in your post, you said no other race tracks race compacts more than once a year.