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#81 scruffy1a

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:42 AM

Case in point, Scruffy made a perfectly rational observation a few weeks ago that perhaps the price of concessions were too high. He did not at any point cross the line, yet rarely a week goes by that Mr Miley basically calls scruffy a coward for not showing his face at the speedway.

Actually, it's not as much the prices as it is the explanations. The calling out started when I called the reasoning behind the prices into question. No valid point is given a straight answer, and most are completely ignored. It all gets turned into what kind of people we should be and how we should be helping racing instead of killing it. New t-shirts: WWMMD?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:43 AM

You my friend, along with the other people on here complaining about this are missing the point. If you have an opinion on the food or something as miniscule as that, it is not going to get you into trouble. But when you start making threats, seriously unnecessary remarks and insults, and things to that nature to either a fellow competitor or the owners themselves, thats when you get into trouble.

Racing is all about coming together as a whole with differences of opinions, driving styles, experience levels and more, but in the end it is still supposed to be a family. It all shows from the whole Cowboy incident and other racing accidents, everyone comes together. There are some bad seeds on here and other places that bring this notion down to the ground, and that isnt what is needed at a tough time like now for all local tracks. I find nothing wrong with this new rule being implemented, and if you do, then well you are probably one of the bad seeds that do not have anything good to say ever and just use 10th grade insults to make a point.

You, my friend, have missed Abe's point. Big shocker.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

Dont know if any of you listened to Rappin on Racin tonight, but their observations are basically what the majority of people involved in the Sport feel about Racestud.

I would bet your next disability check that "the majority of people involved in the sport" don't know that Racestud exists. But that was mighty nice of you to speak on behalf of "the majority of people involved in the sport". I'm sure you feel that you have the authority to do so.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:49 AM

And so the 50/50 is 300 bucks, if you go and really want to make money by hitting the 50/50 or worry about just that, then you need a new hobby,also you do realize you are comparing a WORLD OF OUTLAW SPRINT CAR RACE worth 30,000, to a local night?

You again missed the point.

Go for a whole night, then if you can still say it isnt real racing, go somewhere else, we don't need you anyways

We? Are you part of the family/management team now? That would explain why you come to the defense so often.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

After you've been to tracks like KC and Oakshade you'll realize that PPMS's grandstands are actually in pretty good shape.

I love this logic: Shit holes exist, so if you go somewhere better than a shit hole, you should be grateful instead of wanting better than mediocre.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:53 AM

So we should frequent race tracks based on the 50/50 payout now? Got it.

You missed the point too. I believe, without putting words into the guy's mouth, that he's saying it's fishy that the 50/50 is about the same size no matter how many are in attendance. More people typically translates to a higher 50/50 pot.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:56 AM

However to dismiss the opinions of smart, intelligent posters that may from time to time raise some controversy here including myself, scruffy1a, skull, banned member (r.i.p), turkeysub, harrygant, ronkingdonking's brother, baconbits, george constanza, and underwear bandit as anonymous trouble makers looking to run tracks into the ground, who's opinions should merely be tossed aside, is simply an asinine point of view.

Right on. A valid point should be a valid point regardless of who brings it up.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:00 PM

"No one agrees more than us that the focus should be on the racing"

so I should expect no more petting zoo's or 1 monster truck anymore? and that the focus will now be on racing?

Jerry Baker

I know you jest, but he said the focus should be on the racing, not that it will.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:14 PM

Sorry scruffy, nobody can follow along with the underlying points that Abe must be throwing out there. They arent very visible to the normal person apparently, just the all-knowing racestud mayor and president.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

Sorry scruffy, nobody can follow along with the underlying points that Abe must be throwing out there. They arent very visible to the normal person apparently, just the all-knowing racestud mayor and president.



I believe you haven't caught on yet, they are one in the same person.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

I believe you haven't caught on yet, they are one in the same person.

No, Matt, we are not.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:25 PM

I believe you haven't caught on yet, they are one in the same person.



I have caught on, whether or not they share the same terrible sarcasm, and lack of intelligence, they are not the same person, I will give them that benefit of the doubt.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

Someone should send a email to Pittsburgh Penguins, Steelers, Pirates,.ect. They all should take notice of not allowing bashing.ect on their message boards, after all, ppms is in competition with them in Allegheny county and Saturday nights and we dont want them to not follow what other facilities are doing in 2012.


A quote, we didn't invent this policy.

The use of social media in professional sports is certainly not a new concept – the rise of Twitter can be attributed in part to its use by sports celebrities – but until recently there has been a love / hate relationship with professional sports leagues and social media. The NFL, NBA, and MLB hand out thousands of dollars in fines every year for league policy violations from players, coaches, and even owners. Despite all of the fines and rule violations, many professional sports leagues are starting to actively embrace social media in creative ways.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:17 PM

I think you enjoy flash's opinion so much because his nose is about as brown as yours. No wonder you agree with him.

Giving his name was the most ridiculous part of his post. It would be just as impossible for me to pick Keith E. Donnelly from a lineup as it would be to pick flash49. It is trivial, unnecessary information.


dirtL8MdlFan21&11 does seem to know how to lick some azzzzzzz doesn't he?


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:21 PM

dirtL8MdlFan21&11 does seem to know how to lick some azzzzzzz doesn't he?



no I really dont, but thanks for the plug... and clever way of spelling the word there, what are you 14 talking on instant messenger?


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:28 PM

A quote, we didn't invent this policy.

The use of social media in professional sports is certainly not a new concept – the rise of Twitter can be attributed in part to its use by sports celebrities – but until recently there has been a love / hate relationship with professional sports leagues and social media. The NFL, NBA, and MLB hand out thousands of dollars in fines every year for league policy violations from players, coaches, and even owners. Despite all of the fines and rule violations, many professional sports leagues are starting to actively embrace social media in creative ways.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

That last post caught my attn: the only difference there is that those involved benefit financially from the sport they are involved with. Those in racing are the show and the customer at the same time. Man I never knew such problem existed on this site. compared to most I've seen it appears pretty civilized. Another point- nobody listens to rappin on racin now that it's not on the air. I like ppms alot and attend regularly-if we switch off asphalt I'm sure I would run there. But the policy as written by ppms seems awful generalized and broad and I could see why one would take offense-I'm sure it's a good catchall policy to use to exclude a troublemaker if needed. I will say this I think the namecallin, threats...have no place here but I doubt it will change. Lastly I reAd a post about the modern day sorrows of a promoter and was kind of thrown back. Alot of guys would kill fir that opportunity. When someone takes that job they take on the responsibility to help sustain our sport. That's their choice and their responsibility. If they do it will they reap the benefits-financial/praise/respect...U think that's hard try being a modern day racer. Many live it-that's right racin is alot more than a hobby. The cost in money and time is often huge-we make suggestions to promoters that go on deaf ears; watch promoters make changes we know are detrimental and damaging to the our sport.......but we do have this...a site to let others know what the real deal is and not only share frustrations but also ours and others triumphs. Sometimes a good ole posting will let the promoters know that we know-and don't kid yourself many read the site. I give Matt credit for responding like he does. Good luck to all.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:18 PM

cant we all just get along?


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:36 PM

no I really dont, but thanks for the plug... and clever way of spelling the word there, what are you 14 talking on instant messenger?


I sometimes wonder if you enjoy being throughly and utterly unlikeable on here. Its amazing to me that no one has kicked your ass in the pits yet.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:01 PM

No, Matt, we are not.



Prove it.





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