Well, blatant is blatant! Last night 7/28 in the compacts A, JJ Butler clearly had control of the race. Then Durf blatantly got just into the left rear of JJ making him almost spin. Then the guy behind JJ did the same to him. Also in our mod A same thing with Cornett, the 44 did the same thing to us. Only it resulted in Tim going to rear after spinning him out. Tim is a good clean driver. And would never do that to anyone on purpose. I have seen this behavior out of the 44 on other occasions too. Maybe we should start pushing back. Jeremy, if you read this, please say something at the next driver meeting. Otherwise what good is it to hold your line?
ROUGH DRIVING
Started by Dr. Speedy, Jul 29 2012 08:40 AM
43 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:40 AM
#2
Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:35 AM
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Edited by MWestfallfan54, 30 July 2012 - 10:10 AM.
#3
Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:19 AM
Just a little FYI.....We at Jr & Sons Motorsports consider Justin as part of our team he pits beside us and has all year. We help him and he helps us. We look at the Durflingers as part of our racing family. so a little rubbing durning a race is just good old fashion racing.
Jr & Sons Motorsports
#4
Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:25 AM
There was and has not been any rough driving between Justin and JJ. It was clean racing. There is a differene between hard clean racing and dirty driving. Yes they got into eachother but when your racing on a dirt track that has rough spots it is hard not to get into other cars. There is ALOT more dirty driving that needs to be watched and handeled then little bit of tapping and rubbing.
#5
Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:13 PM
Well, I only know what I saw. I know Jerry and it has nothing to do with anyone personally. It just looked like JJ was push on in excess. so excuse me if I like to see fair racing.
#6
Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:08 PM
Yep let's not get into ruff driving........some of the stuff that has gone down in the last month is totally uncalled for. A few issues were addressed last night and I think it made a huge difference. First off just the talking of a few drivers with each other made a big difference. All the guys that park down by us are considered friends, and if there is room on any given night, pull in and park and get to know us. I had a great night last night racing the 1* and it was a blast. Jeff Kimes, Harvey Yoder, Nick Glasgow, just to name a few are parked by us every week. We all race together and we all have a good time. Hell sometimes I just have to give them a little love tap as they blow by me on the first lap. But I know I'm not fast and could have the opportunity to run into all of them every race..... I started on the poll both races last night. Finished in the back in both races.......But key word here is....."Finished" didn't get spun out but yet bumped and banged and had a great time. Last week got spun out on the first damn lap and it was the first time I had the car to the track after the motor change. Was I.......sure I was and when I found out why, it was explained and I accepted it and came back this week to try it again. I'm in this for the fun. I know I'm not going to get rich doing it. Do I want a trophy.......hell yeah I do to show that my efforts have paid off. But the bottom line is that things were getting a little out of hand and I hope that things are turning around. The rest of the drivers are welcome to come down to our pits anytime to say Hi and wish us good luck and we would like to know that we can do the same. It's time we made this fun again and put on a good show for the fans that spend there hard earned money just like we do to see a good show. It's about the fans anyway, I like many other racers was a fan at one time and I know I love to see good racing for my money and it's up to us as drivers to give that to them. Just like anything else in life, communication is the key to success. Just my thoughts, so think about it guys........let's make the rest of the year the best it can be.....................
#7
Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:10 PM
THE WAY I SAW CORNETT SPIN WAS HE LOST IT ON HIS OWN DRIVING IN TO DEEP AND IF ZACH DID GET INTO HIM HE WAS ALREADY HEAED TO IN FIELD. JUST WHAT I SAW SITTING IN STANDS
#8
Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:41 PM
yep.. starting to look like Limaland
#9
Posted 30 July 2012 - 07:57 PM
What about driving across the infield to try to take out half the field ? Was it A pay back or just stupid ?
#10
Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:56 AM
I indeed had a blast racing with Zwiebel for 7th, that was honestly the hardest I had ever had to drive anything. Ill fully agree the rough driving was getting out of hand, but I had my reasons. Im glad everything got solved before things got too terribly bad. Ill be 100% honest, I'm not too fond of the compacts, mainly because mine is so terribly slow, and secondly it teaches you some bad habits moving up to another division, however, it is quite the challenge. I hate when people thing that they are turds or slow (well, mine is hahahahaha), but it usually produces some great racing. I couldnt see the race up front, but if Durflinger did move JJ, then he did. With compacts you really cant power away from alot of things like you can in other divisions. Yes there are some cars that are fully capable of just flatout leaving the field, but if you have to do a little rub to get by, especially for a win, I see no problem. The track was rather 1 to 1.5 lanes in 3&4 for the compact feature, so if you touched any grease, it wasnt going to end well for you.
The modified deal, I cant believe Post didnt get tossed for some races. I understand Waynesfield doesnt want to lose any cars, but if your in the infield making some passes in the grass, then you need tossed. Especially when he never let off the gas (have video to prove it), and came back on the track and wrecked another car or two. How would you guys feel if I made a shortcut this week or anyone else just made it the gameplan to do such? Theres waaaay too many people in the infield to be doing that stuff. If you got stuffed in the infield, then come back on the track appropriately, not like it happened.
If it was easy, no one would pay to watch it, but...I think something needs to be addressed here.
Erik Wolleson
#11
Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:13 AM
Kartracer - You need to review that video. I also was watching and Post didn't enter the infield to pass cars, this isn't his first race. The #45 got knocked into the infield because of an on track incident that was a mistake. The 15 was passing Zero and got into him slid down the front stretch into the 45 which sent him into the infield.
At this point the 45 can stop on the track to bring out the caution (like one of the victims of this incident did in his heat race) or he can get in line and go back at it. I would have done the same thing he did. The result on the back stretch was and accident and everyone makes them but the CLIFF from the infield to the racing surface didn't help him.
This sucks for the 03 but accidents happen, I am sure he has had a few.
#12
Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:39 AM
I indeed had a blast racing with Zwiebel for 7th, that was honestly the hardest I had ever had to drive anything. Ill fully agree the rough driving was getting out of hand, but I had my reasons. Im glad everything got solved before things got too terribly bad. Ill be 100% honest, I'm not too fond of the compacts, mainly because mine is so terribly slow, and secondly it teaches you some bad habits moving up to another division, however, it is quite the challenge. I hate when people thing that they are turds or slow (well, mine is hahahahaha), but it usually produces some great racing. I couldnt see the race up front, but if Durflinger did move JJ, then he did. With compacts you really cant power away from alot of things like you can in other divisions. Yes there are some cars that are fully capable of just flatout leaving the field, but if you have to do a little rub to get by, especially for a win, I see no problem. The track was rather 1 to 1.5 lanes in 3&4 for the compact feature, so if you touched any grease, it wasnt going to end well for you.
The modified deal, I cant believe Post didnt get tossed for some races. I understand Waynesfield doesnt want to lose any cars, but if your in the infield making some passes in the grass, then you need tossed. Especially when he never let off the gas (have video to prove it), and came back on the track and wrecked another car or two. How would you guys feel if I made a shortcut this week or anyone else just made it the gameplan to do such? Theres waaaay too many people in the infield to be doing that stuff. If you got stuffed in the infield, then come back on the track appropriately, not like it happened.
If it was easy, no one would pay to watch it, but...I think something needs to be addressed here.
Erik Wolleson
I would like to see the video. Is there anyway you can send it to me?
#13
Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:58 AM
THE WAY I SAW CORNETT SPIN WAS HE LOST IT ON HIS OWN DRIVING IN TO DEEP AND IF ZACH DID GET INTO HIM HE WAS ALREADY HEAED TO IN FIELD. JUST WHAT I SAW SITTING IN STANDS
The left rear quarter was flipped up 44 got into him. nuff said.
#14
Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:58 AM
Kartracer - You need to review that video. I also was watching and Post didn't enter the infield to pass cars, this isn't his first race. The #45 got knocked into the infield because of an on track incident that was a mistake. The 15 was passing Zero and got into him slid down the front stretch into the 45 which sent him into the infield.
At this point the 45 can stop on the track to bring out the caution (like one of the victims of this incident did in his heat race) or he can get in line and go back at it. I would have done the same thing he did. The result on the back stretch was and accident and everyone makes them but the CLIFF from the infield to the racing surface didn't help him.
This sucks for the 03 but accidents happen, I am sure he has had a few.
If you saw nothing wrong with what the #45 car did , I sure hope you don't drive. At least the 20R car came back on the track in the same area ( and direction ) where he went off at . If the #45 would have made A left at the water truck and came out at turn 4 , he could have been in front . Less traffic in the infield I guess .
#15
Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:42 PM
I wasn't referring to the 20 car stopping in his heat. I was talking about the 03.
Looking that you account is new and this is your hot topic are you the 03 or the 20? I would say so, I understand the anger and it was visible in the stands too.
There was also no positions gained in the infield.
If you got knocked out of the race what would you do? Stop on the track again? Keep going(this was the 45 approach and it didn't work, shit happens)?
#16
Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:06 PM
NOTE...never before have I said this...and it will probably never happen again, but....I must agree with Geezooie. I watched it all from start to finish. Post got knocked off of the track and into the infield. He tried to survive by staying on the gas and driving thru it. It didn't work....PERIOD!!
I felt bad for Cory but Post made a split second decision. If it had worked and he would have ended up winning, you all would be calling him your hero just like Earnharts famous "pass in the grass." I thought it was ugly and a bad choice for Post but dang... if a driver had time to always make the right choice everytime...every car would win every race.
If that is the only bad move you have ever seen a driver make, you need to start watching the races more closely...
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#17
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:30 AM
Why would you stay on the gas to try and "survive"? If he got knocked in the infield, then so be it, but dude, lift. Your race is probably over at that point anyways, and now you just wrecked 2 more race cars. Ill have to get my buddy to edit the video, as I dont know how to edit, but if I can get it done, Ill get it up. Im unsure why you would even come close to agreeing with this, its not a very brilliant move, and I have watched others do it before. If that call doesnt get a black flag, what will?
#18
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:42 AM
I have no idea what led up to it, but it doesn't really matter. There are pushers, safety personnel, photographers, etc in the infield. If a car enters the infield (or pits) at speed, the yellow needs to be thrown immediately. The incentive of "keeping your spot" if you manage to navigate the infield without running someone over is dangerous. Throw the yellow if someone does it again, make it known it will be thrown so the thought to try to baja where workers are present is no longer there. perhaps some orange cones in the infield where the workers are no allowed to cross, and if a race car enters that area it is an immediate yellow. I'm glad he didn't hit anyone, but the result of coming back onto the track into traffic like that tore up some cars that had nothing to do with the entire deal. I'm guessing we know who geezoie is now (since he has yet to have the stones to mention his name)....Would you happen to be the one who did the exact same thing yourself last year at the other end of the track? That was while we just put you a lap down and you managed to blast the 3rd place car pretty good coming out of the infield wide open. Nothing personal, but that shit is pretty damn stupid. The guys who got torn up were a lot more of a gentleman about it than I would have been.
Edited by Dirtracer48, 01 August 2012 - 12:48 AM.
#19
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:53 AM
#20
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:59 AM
DirtRacer, I am not sure why your so hell bent on knowing who I am. I sit in the Main Grandstands I don't go every week. I also do not currently race and have no affiliation with any one team. I am calling it how I see it, skinny kenny reluctantly agreed with me that doesn't make him one of the post clan. I have no clue what race your are referring to from the past and it sounds like you should just discuss it with post face to face not to the keyboard Jockey on race stud.
Even if I told you who I was, I am not sure what makes you think you would know who I am??? Get over it
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