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[DavyLee2]

How bout them bucco's huh

Who cares!
What did lynch supposedly do ?

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I wasn't there but it has been alleged that Ed Lynch Sr. took a swing at Smokey Schempp during the argument over everything that happened that night. I was told by somebody who shall remain nameless that Ed got a raw deal that night, and everybody who knows the Lynches knows that they tend to get hot as hell in a hell of a hurry if you screw them over and refuse to make it right. Understandable that there was a suspension if Senior did what they said, but if WRG gave a shit about their bottom line they would have swallowed their pride and only suspended Ed Sr., not the whole damn team.

[letsgo]

I wasn't there but it has been alleged that Ed Lynch Sr. took a swing at Smokey Schempp during the argument over everything that happened that night. I was told by somebody who shall remain nameless that Ed got a raw deal that night, and everybody who knows the Lynches knows that they tend to get hot as hell in a hell of a hurry if you screw them over and refuse to make it right. Understandable that there was a suspension if Senior did what they said, but if WRG gave a shit about their bottom line they would have swallowed their pride and only suspended Ed Sr., not the whole damn team.

Someone took a swing at Smokey and got suspended?! My gosh he should get a medal, two if he connected.

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I don't think he actually hit Smokey, but I'm pretty sure he tried. Otherwise I don't think there'd have been a suspension.

[Skull]

Someone took a swing at Smokey and got suspended?! My gosh he should get a medal, two if he connected.

I don't disagree with that. Smokey is a world class jerk.

From what I have heard, The DQ from that night's race and subsequent suspension were levied because of his crew's failure to leave the pit blackboard area after repeated requests to do so......all taking place while the Sprint feature was ongoing. Some have said that the suspension was because Junior's crew entered the track to check on the car after the warm up incident even after they were told not to. I have been told that his crew was told by Smokey himself that they could check on the car because of the nature of the incident. I think where things escalated was when Ed, who was scheduled to start tenth, was sent to the rear.

I would ordinarily think the Lynch's had a legitimate bitch if it weren't for something curious they did earlier this year that I still can't figure out. Ed hot lapped the car and blew away the field in his heat. He was a 2:1 favorite to win the feature even if he started last, but scratched. We figured he broke. But, it later was confirmed to me that he only ran hot laps and his heat to shake the car down for Knoxville. He had what could only be considered an easy pay check at the end of the night, but didn't feel it was important enough for all of his fans that they get to see him in the feature. I've always admired Ed, but if that story is true, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it was bullshit. Now, the incident on the final regular night makes even less sense. If they didn't care to stay around to run the feature a month prior, then why make such a big stink about being sent to the back on this night? I'll tell you why. Because years ago, they started to believe their own bullshit, which is they think they are bigger than Lernerville. Senior is my favorite driver of all time. No one can accurately measure what Jean Lynch has done for local and national dirt track racing. But, they are not bigger than Lernerville. I've watched the best of the best run there over the years. Some move on to other tracks and some retire, but the track is still there and pulling in the crowds. Frankly, I'm happy WRG suspended him because it sends a message; no matter whether you are Ed Lynch Jr., that ass hat Kevin Bolland, or a weekly back marker in the Stocks, you get treated the same way.

Edited by Skull, 21 September 2013 - 11:48 AM.

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I think I'd have to have more than secondhand evidence to believe Ed would pull something like that, Skull. I have to think that if he indeed did do that, there might be more to it than you were told. As for Ed not being bigger than Lernerville, well, Lernerville ain't what it once was, and the asses Ed can put in the seats very well might matter a hell of a lot on an Outlaw night depending on the financial state of the track and of WRG, to which we obviously are not privy. If you have a thousand or 2 fewer people show up on an Outlaw night, that ain't chump change, and if they reschedule this Outlaw show and you wind up seeing a lot more bare wood than normal, A) WRG's bean counters might have a thing or 2 to say about the foolhardiness of being a slave to the letter of the rules, and B ) it would say that maybe indeed Ed IS bigger than Lernerville. If I were WRG I would not reschedule this race, because I don't think whether or not the Lynches are bigger than Lernerville is something they really want to test out.

Edited by Round Robin, 22 September 2013 - 08:42 AM.

[plymouth-man]

I for one will make the hour and half trip to Lernerville just to watch ed run a sprint car, it wouldn't be the same without him..

[Crusty1]

I don't like seeing anyone get canned! But with or without Ed the show will go on. I give Lernerville credit for treating him like anyone else. On the other hand my choice would be for Lynch,Bolland and the WRG would kiss and make up. Life is short move on.

[BaconBits]

I think I'd have to have more than secondhand evidence to believe Ed would pull something like that, Skull. I have to think that if he indeed did do that, there might be more to it than you were told. As for Ed not being bigger than Lernerville, well, Lernerville ain't what it once was, and the asses Ed can put in the seats very well might matter a hell of a lot on an Outlaw night depending on the financial state of the track and of WRG, to which we obviously are not privy. If you have a thousand or 2 fewer people show up on an Outlaw night, that ain't chump change, and if they reschedule this Outlaw show and you wind up seeing a lot more bare wood than normal, A) WRG's bean counters might have a thing or 2 to say about the foolhardiness of being a slave to the letter of the rules, and B ) it would say that maybe indeed Ed IS bigger than Lernerville. If I were WRG I would not reschedule this race, because I don't think whether or not the Lynches are bigger than Lernerville is something they really want to test out.

Again, you fat F*ck, you are absolutely delusional. Please go stuff your face with some more fast food and leave the racing discussion to people with a clue.

[TheLegend]

Again, you fat F*ck, you are absolutely delusional. Please go stuff your face with some more fast food and leave the racing discussion to people with a clue.

Who draws more fans .... Lynch or " the Pennsylvania Piss Pig " and why ?

[Skull]

I think I'd have to have more than secondhand evidence to believe Ed would pull something like that, Skull. I have to think that if he indeed did do that, there might be more to it than you were told. As for Ed not being bigger than Lernerville, well, Lernerville ain't what it once was, and the asses Ed can put in the seats very well might matter a hell of a lot on an Outlaw night depending on the financial state of the track and of WRG, to which we obviously are not privy. If you have a thousand or 2 fewer people show up on an Outlaw night, that ain't chump change, and if they reschedule this Outlaw show and you wind up seeing a lot more bare wood than normal, A) WRG's bean counters might have a thing or 2 to say about the foolhardiness of being a slave to the letter of the rules, and B ) it would say that maybe indeed Ed IS bigger than Lernerville. If I were WRG I would not reschedule this race, because I don't think whether or not the Lynches are bigger than Lernerville is something they really want to test out.

I thought the track drew pretty well this year. Most people have grown used to Lynch not being there every week. A WoO race is a different story, fair enough. But, more often than not over the last half dozen or so years, Ed has stepped on his dick at these shows. There might have been a time when the people Ed drew might have made somewhat of a difference on the bottom line. I doubt that is the case anymore. Again, I still like watching him run, however his best days are clearly behind him.

[Benny K]

I thought the track drew pretty well this year. Most people have grown used to Lynch not being there every week. A WoO race is a different story, fair enough. But, more often than not over the last half dozen or so years, Ed has stepped on his dick at these shows. There might have been a time when the people Ed drew might have made somewhat of a difference on the bottom line. I doubt that is the case anymore. Again, I still like watching him run, however his best days are clearly behind him.

The Outlaws are an attaction that doesn't need Lynch there to draw well. Average Joe racefan who likes to see the nations best sprint drivers isn't getting on this message board and saying oh I am not going now Lynch isn't racing.

[Skull]

The Outlaws are an attaction that doesn't need Lynch there to draw well. Average Joe racefan who likes to see the nations best sprint drivers isn't getting on this message board and saying oh I am not going now Lynch isn't racing.

Exactly. People will notice that he isn't there, but keep in mind that those conversations will take place AFTER they have paid to get in.

[D1RT]

I think I'd have to have more than secondhand evidence to believe Ed would pull something like that, Skull. I have to think that if he indeed did do that, there might be more to it than you were told. As for Ed not being bigger than Lernerville, well, Lernerville ain't what it once was, and the asses Ed can put in the seats very well might matter a hell of a lot on an Outlaw night depending on the financial state of the track and of WRG, to which we obviously are not privy. If you have a thousand or 2 fewer people show up on an Outlaw night, that ain't chump change, and if they reschedule this Outlaw show and you wind up seeing a lot more bare wood than normal, A) WRG's bean counters might have a thing or 2 to say about the foolhardiness of being a slave to the letter of the rules, and B ) it would say that maybe indeed Ed IS bigger than Lernerville. If I were WRG I would not reschedule this race, because I don't think whether or not the Lynches are bigger than Lernerville is something they really want to test out.

Get real Round One!!
That's like saying Rahmer, Deweese, Hodnett, etc are bigger than Williams Grove and Lincoln so I guess both of those tracks will go bankrupt when Fred Rahmer(which is more of a sprint car driver than Lynch Jr. can ever dream of being) retires at the end of the season.
As far as saying Lernerville isn't the track it use to be well neither is Eldora, Knoxville, East Bay, Volusia, and just about EVERY track in the USA.
The fact is Lynch Sr, Jr, and their crew have a well documented history of thinking they are above any track rules or promoter and everyone should bow to their presence at the track.
Well at least Jack Lentz at Challenger and Lernerville/WRG had the testicular fortitude to not cave into their bull crap and hand out the punishment they deserve....

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I don't think WRG's bean counters will give a shit who deserves what if this race is rescheduled and they see a ticket revenue line that is noticeably lower than normal for a WoO race at Lernerville. They'll be asking why the numbers are down so much. Hey, maybe you guys who think you know so much will be right and the attendance will be normal. I don't think it will be, not with all the other stuff competing for the casual fan's attention and money around here this time of year. But what I'm saying is that that is not something a track and a series owned by a parent company with a reputation for being in iffy financial shape really should be testing out.

Edited by Round Robin, 22 September 2013 - 02:41 PM.

[BaconBits]

I don't think WRG's bean counters will give a shit who deserves what if this race is rescheduled and they see a ticket revenue line that is noticeably lower than normal for a WoO race at Lernerville. They'll be asking why the numbers are down so much. Hey, maybe you guys who think you know so much will be right and the attendance will be normal. I don't think it will be, not with all the other stuff competing for the casual fan's attention and money around here this time of year. But what I'm saying is that that is not something a track and a series owned by a parent company with a reputation for being in iffy financial shape really should be testing out.

You can try to explain yourself all you want but you still don't have a f*cking clue about anything. It's amazing you even know how to turn a computer on.

[LernervillePRDirector]

But what I'm saying is that that is not something a track and a series owned by a parent company with a reputation for being in iffy financial shape really should be testing out.

Not that I'm privy to WRG accounting documents or financial statements. I have no real idea. But I'd say with a fair deal of confidence that their situation isn't "iffy" as a whole. I don't believe they're a giant revenue machine, but they make more good decisions than bad and appear to manage the resources well. They're probably considering any Lynch Jr related loss of revenue as negligible, I'd be more than willing to bet they're right.

[D1RT]

I don't think WRG's bean counters will give a shit who deserves what if this race is rescheduled and they see a ticket revenue line that is noticeably lower than normal for a WoO race at Lernerville. They'll be asking why the numbers are down so much. Hey, maybe you guys who think you know so much will be right and the attendance will be normal. I don't think it will be, not with all the other stuff competing for the casual fan's attention and money around here this time of year. But what I'm saying is that that is not something a track and a series owned by a parent company with a reputation for being in iffy financial shape really should be testing out.

IF this race is rescheduled and the crowd happens to be down I'd be willing to that high school and college football and hunting season would be more of a factor keeping people away than if Lynch was there or not.

[#1Cgeislerfan]

IF this race is rescheduled and the crowd happens to be down I'd be willing to that high school and college football and hunting season would be more of a factor keeping people away than if Lynch was there or not.

Or the cold/possibly wet weather again

[Crusty1]

At one time local race fans would watch and cheer for Lynch because he was our only local hope. Now you have guys like Danny Holtsgraver & Tim Shaffer they are our locals that can win! I don't think anyone is going to decide not to come to the WOO show because Lynch is banned.