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#41 Fast Orange

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:45 AM

We are researching what made the Keystone Open a packed event in 1995 and 1996.

Good point on the gearing. Racers are pretty resourceful when it comes to finding parts (i.e. a 5.13 chunk for a 9" floater).

If the gearing is a bit high numerically and the car is handling good enough to hit the chip at the flagstand, it's a successful experiment!

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I remember winning this race in 1995. Had a stock front clipped semi-late that usually ran at Windber - Ebinsburg - Potomac - etc. Engines over a certain cubic inch had to run a 2 BBl. Used tires were handed out free at the beginning of the day. E-mods and full fendered cars all ran the same class. Someone mentioned Cheyenne Reed in an earlier post. I remember following him off of 4 and watching something break - sending him hard into the wall. The crowd was decent. Hell - Miss Motorsports 1995 was even there to hand out the trophy.



 

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

Did you notice that in the previous post it was stated that tires were handed out free to competitors to encourage their participation in the program? Better do that again if you want guys to give it a try this year.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:18 PM

Did you notice that in the previous post it was stated that tires were handed out free to competitors to encourage their participation in the program? Better do that again if you want guys to give it a try this year.

Back when they had these races in the 90's Clearfield was a weekly asphalt track and they saved up the used late model tires to give to the dirt drivers.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:05 AM

so no chance of adding dirt late models? still think you might do ok with 3 area classes

Yes, we are considering running Dirt Late Models, BUT we need to hear from the late model teams out there who want to come over and run. If we have enough interest to make it a good show we'll run it.

Also, we are adding the asphalt Modifieds from Motordrome and Lake Erie, but we need to hear from the teams that are coming!

Finally, Tires have been a hot topic and a complete rundown will be posted on Monday (9/30).
Pit Passes will be $25 for everyone.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 04:24 AM

Yes, we are considering running Dirt Late Models, BUT we need to hear from the late model teams out there who want to come over and run. If we have enough interest to make it a good show we'll run it.

Also, we are adding the asphalt Modifieds from Motordrome and Lake Erie, but we need to hear from the teams that are coming!

Finally, Tires have been a hot topic and a complete rundown will be posted on Monday (9/30).
Pit Passes will be $25 for everyone.

sounds like this should be a good show...not a fan of asphalt but i will be there to support your efforts on putting a show like this on


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:39 PM

Follow us on Twitter @CNBRacewayPark I'll be providing updates during the Open. As well as before (like now) and after (like all winter). ramey

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:53 PM

Follow us on Twitter @CNBRacewayPark

I'll be providing updates during the Open. As well as before (like now) and after (like all winter).

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Dirt Late models on that big 5/8 mile track, now I got to see that.. ;)

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:13 AM

TIRES _ TIRES - TIRES !! Not sure that we've had so much discussion about tires in a long time. Bottom line is .... If they are legal where you race then they are legal for the KEYSTONE OPEN. BUT just because they are legal doesn't mean you want to run them on Oct 12th. Please see our facebook page and the new topic about the Keystone Open here on Racestud for more information on tires.


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:44 PM

TIRES _ TIRES - TIRES !!
Not sure that we've had so much discussion about tires in a long time.
Bottom line is ....
If they are legal where you race then they are legal for the KEYSTONE OPEN.
BUT just because they are legal doesn't mean you want to run them on Oct 12th.
Please see our facebook page and the new topic about the Keystone Open here on Racestud for more information on tires.

any payout news yet


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 06:43 PM

If I am reading the rules correct, the dirt cars can run any motor with any carb up to a 750 cfm. You guys might want to consider putting everyone on a 4412. A 3000 lb car with a 750 carb will be well under the 20 second range which will be over 100 mph. When we ran 4 barrell carbs there we had to weight 3400 and ran 20 seconds. Just my thoughts


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:55 AM

If I am reading the rules correct, the dirt cars can run any motor with any carb up to a 750 cfm. You guys might want to consider putting everyone on a 4412. A 3000 lb car with a 750 carb will be well under the 20 second range which will be over 100 mph. When we ran 4 barrell carbs there we had to weight 3400 and ran 20 seconds. Just my thoughts

Whats wrong with 100 mph? I say let em race.. ;)

Edited by plymouth-man, 06 October 2013 - 10:09 AM.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:28 AM

Suggestion for next year. Let me build my own Ford motor and have it verified and sealed by Mike Ingram as I will follow the same specs as closely as possible as the 602 GM crate. I think this will help to get more cars on the track for next year.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 07:46 PM

dont know if you would get any super latemodels but as far as speed on the dirt 1/2 mile at little valley ny the supers are hitting close to 140 mph at the end of the straights. that track has longer schutes than cnb but the speed is there from the supers. at thoes speeds i wouldnt want to hit the wall at cnb. i hope you have a great show and have a lot of cars. remember todays super lates woo ulms lucas etc weigh 2300 lbs what is the weight of todays pavement supers


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:21 PM

dont know if you would get any super latemodels but as far as speed on the dirt 1/2 mile at little valley ny the supers are hitting close to 140 mph at the end of the straights. that track has longer schutes than cnb but the speed is there from the supers. at thoes speeds i wouldnt want to hit the wall at cnb. i hope you have a great show and have a lot of cars. remember todays super lates woo ulms lucas etc weigh 2300 lbs what is the weight of todays pavement supers

2700 with a crate motor and 2800 with a built motor. there are variations, but this is the ballpark.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:57 AM

Have you had any calls from modified s in the NY area?

Edited by plymouth-man, 07 October 2013 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:03 AM

Have you had any calls from modified s in the NY area?


I don't know any details but Rob has been talking to some guys up there. I do know that Motordrome and Erie guys have committed.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:30 PM

Dirt street stocks with a 4 bbl and open engine rules will be very fast on the 5/8 asphalt. Bedford ( 5/8 mile) semi lates with stock vortec heads and a 4412 are topping out at just over 100 MPH on dirt.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:41 AM

Dirt street stocks with a 4 bbl and open engine rules will be very fast on the 5/8 asphalt. Bedford ( 5/8 mile) semi lates with stock vortec heads and a 4412 are topping out at just over 100 MPH on dirt.


That's one of the reasons we're so excited about having dirt cars run at CNB. Lots of power and the challenge of using it handling wise. Mix that with dialed-in asphalt cars and you have a good time!

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:24 PM

Bump to top. The top of the speed charts that is!

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