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[BaconBits]

I hope it works out for them. Modifieds in this area have need an entry level class for the longest time.

[KartRacer1]

I hope it works out for them. Modifieds in this area have need an entry level class for the longest time.

I agree. I think its going to take a few years to really see solid 20 to 30 car counts but its putting people into cars that haven't seen much of any growth in this area for sometime. I also really like the idea of instead of dedicating to one track, they are going to put shows at different tracks in different parts of the region. I feel that by allowing a handful of races at these different tracks, it gives guys a chance to see very different tracks and gain experience on different configurations. I like the idea and I plan on being out there to ask some questions on the 26th.

[Curtis86]

This is great !!! Last year Rob Curtis tryed really hard to get this goin hope he is still involved. And everyone that is unsure of the car counts every one of the crate late events that i was in attendence the car counts where around 40 cars and wasnt many super late guys jumpn down to run with the crates

I'm not involved in this venture at all. We do need the feeder division for the mods cause car counts have been dropping. Just dont need dirt involved and low budget racing needs to be at the tiop of the list. High priced spec tires long tows, high registration fees and no caps on high dollar bolt ons wont help. Driver eligibility is a good thing so we dont lose cars out of the existing classes . I hope it goes if its done right. Payoff will have to be posted so everyone knows what they are running for especially if the tows are gonna be long like it looks to be. Its basically the same as what I tried to start last year but is gonna cost guys quite a bit more to race week to week. Everything I did was about getting new guys on the track with the benefit to me being more guys to race with in the future. I wasn't gonna make a nickel off it. Not the case this time. Then again maybe rush and dirtcar will pour a boatload of money into it with a nice weekly payoff to help it get off the ground as an investment. A 10000 dollar year end purse dont mean squat if you cant afford to race week to week.I'm sure there will be some nice comments on my posts but I'm speaking from experience from running on a tight budget. Want to see the modifiers grow in this are and its the little guys with tight budgets that are gonna have to do it. Hope it fares better than last year.

[grtracer]

I'm not involved in this venture at all. We do need the feeder division for the mods cause car counts have been dropping. Just dont need dirt involved and low budget racing needs to be at the tiop of the list. High priced spec tires long tows, high registration fees and no caps on high dollar bolt ons wont help. Driver eligibility is a good thing so we dont lose cars out of the existing classes . I hope it goes if its done right. Payoff will have to be posted so everyone knows what they are running for especially if the tows are gonna be long like it looks to be. Its basically the same as what I tried to start last year but is gonna cost guys quite a bit more to race week to week. Everything I did was about getting new guys on the track with the benefit to me being more guys to race with in the future. I wasn't gonna make a nickel off it. Not the case this time. Then again maybe rush and dirtcar will pour a boatload of money into it with a nice weekly payoff to help it get off the ground as an investment. A 10000 dollar year end purse dont mean squat if you cant afford to race week to week.I'm sure there will be some nice comments on my posts but I'm speaking from experience from running on a tight budget. Want to see the modifiers grow in this are and its the little guys with tight budgets that are gonna have to do it. Hope it fares better than last year.

Thats great to hear Rob, so I'm thinking you would be someone to help me get started finding a car etc?
:-)

[Curtis86]

Thats great to hear Rob, so I'm thinking you would be someone to help me get started finding a car etc?
:-)

You can give me a call and I can get you going in the right direction. 724-866-8832

[POWER21]

I'm not involved in this venture at all. We do need the feeder division for the mods cause car counts have been dropping. Just dont need dirt involved and low budget racing needs to be at the tiop of the list. High priced spec tires long tows, high registration fees and no caps on high dollar bolt ons wont help. Driver eligibility is a good thing so we dont lose cars out of the existing classes . I hope it goes if its done right. Payoff will have to be posted so everyone knows what they are running for especially if the tows are gonna be long like it looks to be. Its basically the same as what I tried to start last year but is gonna cost guys quite a bit more to race week to week. Everything I did was about getting new guys on the track with the benefit to me being more guys to race with in the future. I wasn't gonna make a nickel off it. Not the case this time. Then again maybe rush and dirtcar will pour a boatload of money into it with a nice weekly payoff to help it get off the ground as an investment. A 10000 dollar year end purse dont mean squat if you cant afford to race week to week.I'm sure there will be some nice comments on my posts but I'm speaking from experience from running on a tight budget. Want to see the modifiers grow in this are and its the little guys with tight budgets that are gonna have to do it. Hope it fares better than last year.

I agree long tows are going to hurt low dollar guys. I do like the rules asvlong as they are enforced. Fasttrack seem to have gotten away from that. Would be nice for some tracks to pick mods up weekly. Good luck hope to see success in 2014.

[grtracer]

You can give me a call and I can get you going in the right direction. 724-866-8832

Thanks, I will call after work.

[dano47]

This is a great idea. I like the idea of crates in a modified to keep the cost down. If this class were to be started on the E mod chassis it would be more cost effective as these cars are readily available. There are a bunch of these cars with limited places to race. The E mod class was great until they opened up the engine rules and put the cost out of reach for the average racer. If in the future they open up the engine rules on this new class it will fail also. People will be hesitant to get involved in this class without believing these rules will be strictly enforced and not changed in the future.

[POWER21]

This is a great idea. I like the idea of crates in a modified to keep the cost down. If this class were to be started on the E mod chassis it would be more cost effective as these cars are readily available. There are a bunch of these cars with limited places to race. The E mod class was great until they opened up the engine rules and put the cost out of reach for the average racer. If in the future they open up the engine rules on this new class it will fail also. People will be hesitant to get involved in this class without believing these rules will be strictly enforced and not changed in the future.

I agree create latemodels same way then everything got out of hand if you want to run expensive shocks and blueprintmotors then run super late. Rules get flexed and the ones that start flexing them are big dollar guys. The race saver sprints seem to have a good here are the rules and they are enforced.

[whenpigsfly]

sounds like a great idea if the area drops a division of emods and stock cars........... too many divisions and not enough cars already...... adding another division fixes that?

[mmiley]

[suhoney18]

with ppms running them a bunch and amp going bi-weekly i don't see any reason why if it's done right it won't take off...from what i heard there where still modifieds around the amp area and guys who would have built one had they been added...well now is the chance to step up and help this class grow...

[CaddyKid]

im supporting this new class. Im working on my new mod that I was going to run with 358s but now Ill go with the 602. hopefully the class stays kinda low budget racing. there are lots of sportsmans for sale up in new York fairly cheap too.

[Rocky Kugel]

I'm all in...building one.

[BUTTBEAK]

A Kugel,in a mod, @ PPMS,..... all kinds of history coming back from the past, lately.

[whenpigsfly]

im supporting this new class. Im working on my new mod that I was going to run with 358s but now Ill go with the 602. hopefully the class stays kinda low budget racing. there are lots of sportsmans for sale up in new York fairly cheap too.

yep it will be low budget as the organizers will take your money for you to be involved and they will profit off of the parts you must buy, and they will pay you less than the 358's since this is a "beginner class" and then they will schedule the races all over the western half of the state. That said i would say its safe to say you will have a low budget racing this division. Crate motor racing with these heavy cars will be another boring division. one more division to bore the rest of the fans out of the stands

[JohnnyHildo]

Straight off the rules.

Eligibility:
Drivers will be ineligible to compete in the RUSH Sportsman Modified division if any one of the following apply:
 Driver is a full-time competitor in Big-Block Modified, 358 Modified, or any other headlining division.
 Driver is a top 5 point finisher in Big-Block Modified, 358 Modified, or any other headlining division in the past 2 seasons.
 Driver is a feature winner in Big-Block Modifieds or any other headlining division in the past 2 seasons.
 Driver moves up to compete with Big-Block or 358 Modified class with Sportsman-legal car on the same night the Sportsman Modified class is in competition.

I can't believe nobody has said this well maybe they have but I didn't see it yet this is a perfect division for Kevin Bolland but he'll have to wait until July since he won in July 2012 but he meets the other rules but if I was RUSH I would give him a break and let him run imagine the fans that would show up for these races we haven't seen Revin Kevin 777 racing for so long the fans and drivers will be happy to see him bumping and banging and winning again! He would dominate this division I'm sure people think they can sell their old cars now and there will be old cars out there Bolland would win every race that would be so awesome for the new division and modifieds and modified racers would get better because of racing with Kevin Bolland's rough style and fans would love it tracks too because of all the fans coming I hope he will at least consider it I don't think DIRT will ever let him race again if they haven't yet

[Skull]

I wouldn't trust Vikki Emig as far as I could throw her. All of this bullshit about helping the Modifieds? Really? How did it help the Mod fields in the area when she switched MRP to SB's years back? All that did was split this area's pool of cars, all so she could pay a cut purse and promote it by saying she was saving the racer's money. Where have we all heard that idea before? As soon as some promoter makes a rule change saying it's going to save you money, be prepared to get your wallet out. She did more damage to the BB fields around here by switching to SB's than any other single factor. I know she is in it to make money. Good for her. But don't sit here and pretend like what you are doing with the RUSH program and with this new Sportsman Mod class is being done in the best interests of the racer. Steel wheels? If a guy wants to move up, what the hell is he supposed to do with a dozen of those? Maybe they can sell them for anchors. I also agree with some previous posts in that some of these divisions need to be shut down. Hell, how many divisions can this area support? You wonder why Stocks at some tracks are suffering? Because teams have too many damn choices. Make a Stock class with good rules that make sense for everyone, enforce them, and get rid of three or four divisions. Then watch the Stock class grow again.

[BaconBits]

Rumor has it Kevin Bolland hates you and everybody related to you Dildo.

[BaconBits]

I wouldn't trust Vikki Emig as far as I could throw her.

All of this bullshit about helping the Modifieds? Really? How did it help the Mod fields in the area when she switched MRP to SB's years back? All that did was split this area's pool of cars, all so she could pay a cut purse and promote it by saying she was saving the racer's money. Where have we all heard that idea before? As soon as some promoter makes a rule change saying it's going to save you money, be prepared to get your wallet out. She did more damage to the BB fields around here by switching to SB's than any other single factor.

I know she is in it to make money. Good for her. But don't sit here and pretend like what you are doing with the RUSH program and with this new Sportsman Mod class is being done in the best interests of the racer. Steel wheels? If a guy wants to move up, what the hell is he supposed to do with a dozen of those? Maybe they can sell them for anchors.

I also agree with some previous posts in that some of these divisions need to be shut down. Hell, how many divisions can this area support? You wonder why Stocks at some tracks are suffering? Because teams have too many damn choices. Make a Stock class with good rules that make sense for everyone, enforce them, and get rid of three or four divisions. Then watch the Stock class grow again.

DIRTcar still requires steel wheels for 602 sportsman and they're going with DIRTcar's rules. Although, I'm hearing that DIRTcar is probably going to aluminum wheels next season. Hopefully if that change is made this RUSH modified deal follows suit.

Edited by BaconBits, 16 October 2013 - 06:06 PM.