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[swiper]

Ok, let me clarify what I intended to say. It is no different than any other SMALL dirt track. I've been around racing for more decades than I like to think about. I've attended many, many tracks, big and small, asphalt and dirt all over this great country and the Bird is no different than other tracks of similar size and surface. I give them some credit. Last season the surface was more often than in great shape and provided some excellent side by side racing on a weekly basis. That is my opinion. You are certainly entitled to yours.
Having said that, WHERE ARE THE RULES?

Why do you keep asking about rules it not like your going to follow them anyways. Just looking to see how much over the rules you gotta be to win.

[race ace]

i was TOLD by one of the purestock drivers from Hummingbird that the pure stock rules are going to be changed to what the A.M.P. cars are now and i don"t know how true this is but that is what he said .he also said that A.M.P will be getting 2 more street stocks weekly and these two drivers are in newly built cars this year . A.M.P rules are already out with the changes and are posted on their website.www.americasmotorsportpark.com

[714d]

i was TOLD by one of the purestock drivers from Hummingbird that the pure stock rules are going to be changed to what the A.M.P. cars are now and i don"t know how true this is but that is what he said .he also said that A.M.P will be getting 2 more street stocks weekly and these two drivers are in newly built cars this year . A.M.P rules are already out with the changes and are posted on their website.www.americasmotorsportpark.com

Yeah, because hummingbird loves cooperating with amp. Get real. Unless you can validate these comments you are just spreading rumors. Of course I wouldn't put it past them to have the only rule change they make be the absolute worst idea anyone could dream up...... The pure stock clusterluck of a rules package at amp.

[race ace]

gee wiz i didn't mean to cause you to get your panties in a bunch this guy runs there every week. i guess you can wait until april to find out what the rules are like the rest of them .i don't think they are trying to co-operate at all with a.m.p just trying to make it so if someone from a.m.p wants to run the bird for some reason they can come there and be legal.like i said before wait until april and show up then they will tell you the rules.

Edited by race ace, 23 December 2013 - 12:18 AM.

[Chuck Stevens]

714D, Last year we started with the same rules package as The Bird.The first 4 races we were only getting 5 cars.They were thinking of dropping the class but decided to go with Sportsmans rules and we then averaged 16 cars.The reason the semi late class was started was because of the rules that were already out of hand in the pure stock class.The new semi late class is cheaper to put a car together than a pure stock.The management at AMP will not argue that the pure stocks are out of hand but racing 4 or 5 cars is not what the fans want to see.I hope I explained it well enough.

[RocketRide]

gee wiz i didn't mean to cause you to get your panties in a bunch this guy runs there every week. i guess you can wait until april to find out what the rules are like the rest of them .i don't think they are trying to co-operate at all with a.m.p just trying to make it so if someone from a.m.p wants to run the bird for some reason they can come there and be legal.like i said before wait until april and show up then they will tell you the rules.

Wow, what a statement,make them wait do you realize alot of people may want to know before that as that may factor into class and or equipment that they may want to purchase, real intelligent statement.

[race ace]

Wow, what a statement,make them wait do you realize alot of people may want to know before that as that may factor into class and or equipment that they may want to purchase, real intelligent statement.

ummmm ....that last post of mine was supposed to be a joke ,because every year someone gets on here and wants the rules posted and it never happens and then about a month or two before the season starts they release them and they are usually the same as the year before but you can never be sure on what is going to happen. it is like they don't want you to start working on your car till 3 weeks before the seaon starts . sorry for the confusion.

[aust777]

714D, Last year we started with the same rules package as The Bird.The first 4 races we were only getting 5 cars.They were thinking of dropping the class but decided to go with Sportsmans rules and we then averaged 16 cars.The reason the semi late class was started was because of the rules that were already out of hand in the pure stock class.The new semi late class is cheaper to put a car together than a pure stock.The management at AMP will not argue that the pure stocks are out of hand but racing 4 or 5 cars is not what the fans want to see.I hope I explained it well enough.

yes amp started with the same rules package that was supposed to be ENFORCED but never was! the pure stocks are way out of control as is the fwds.unless there are clear rules and they are STRICKTLY enforced racers will always find"loopholes" in them.

[Chuck Stevens]

714d yes you are right about AMP starting out with the same rules package.The first 5 weeks are car count was 5 to six. AMP paid the largest purse than any other track around.So the paying a larger purse is not the answer to get more cars. AMP looked into other tracks such as Sportsmans and with their blessing they changed the rules to favor their cars.They only other option was to drop the class.After we made the changes we starting averaging 15 to 16 cars.We did have a few nights when we did not get the support from that class but overall they did support AMP. There is no question that this class needs to start over to make it a pure stock class.

[snooky]

Doesn't need to start over, just needs to be taken back from where AMP brought it. It's been my experience that there is no going back. When they went to triple disc clutches, headers, and 4 barrels for a pure stock class, I thought they were going to combine the PS's and SS's eventually.

[Chuck Stevens]

Snooky,Like I said we were only getting 5 or 6 cars so we should not affected other tracks unless those other tracks already had those rules. When you only have a few cars in a class it is not fun for the fans or the drivers.We did not want to drop the class so AMP did the only thing left it could do.If the class did not grow after opening up the rules then they would not have been back this year I believe.In a perfect world maybe we could have raced 5 cars and see if it would grow but we were receiving complaints from the paying fans.Also we were approached buy some of the drivers to see what we could do so the class was not dropped.I hope you could look at it from another side.These are tough decisions that have to be made and it is hard to make everyone happy so in some cases you try and please the majority.

[snooky]

Impossible to please everyone. I understand why it was done. It was purely a business decision. I sure the guys that built their cars for the original AMP rules weren't happy. I guess change is the only constant AND increased costs.

[boogity_boogity_boogity]

I think it is funny that people sit here and bash Hummingbird, When A.M.P isn't any better. Then 2 times I have been there I have not seen any better racing. Why would you run all the classes together in hot laps? I saw a street stock wreck into a late model and it took forever for them to pull them apart. Also I understand that running the sprints is a good idea for the track, But when it takes 10-15 mins to clean up and get the race started isn't good for the fans. I understand people have their own options and favor their tracks, But they need to look at each track and each track has there faults.

Edited by boogity_boogity_boogity, 05 January 2014 - 11:46 AM.

[thebigdueceduece]

I think it is funny that people sit here and bash Hummingbird, When A.M.P isn't any better. Then 2 times I have been there I have not seen any better racing. Why would you run all the classes together in hot laps? I saw a street stock wreck into a late model and it took forever for them to pull them apart. Also I understand that running the sprints is a good idea for the track, But when it takes 10-15 mins to clean up and get the race started isn't good for the fans. I understand people have their own options and favor their tracks, But they need to look at each track and each track has there faults.

Ya....ok, ILL SAY IT!
Hummingbird had a great year last year as far as racing was concerned and surface conditions. There were so many photo finishes and battles in the top 5 in every class it was intense. Amp's Drivers cant go 5 laps without a yellow. With that being said, I don't blame the drivers or the track crew, that track just sucks, nothing but one lane!!! and I for one am excited to see how the renovations turn out for them this year. should allow for better racing and I wish the best of luck to them. As far as the rules go, I understand the business decision that "HAD" to be made, but Snooky was right to say you might as well give them big tires and race with the Street Stocks.

[gofast05]

Ya....ok, ILL SAY IT!
Hummingbird had a great year last year as far as racing was concerned and surface conditions. There were so many photo finishes and battles in the top 5 in every class it was intense. Amp's Drivers cant go 5 laps without a yellow. With that being said, I don't blame the drivers or the track crew, that track just sucks, nothing but one lane!!! and I for one am excited to see how the renovations turn out for them this year. should allow for better racing and I wish the best of luck to them. As far as the rules go, I understand the business decision that "HAD" to be made, but Snooky was right to say you might as well give them big tires and race with the Street Stocks.

with some work, AMP has potential. the only reason I say that is because jeff has a great attitude. if they can keep the track from being 1 lane, they'll be great. Hummingbird has some of the best racing around. their fault, Louie's attitude. If those two would work together, the two tracks would be in great shape.

[thebigdueceduece]

with some work, AMP has potential. the only reason I say that is because jeff has a great attitude. if they can keep the track from being 1 lane, they'll be great. Hummingbird has some of the best racing around. their fault, Louie's attitude. If those two would work together, the two tracks would be in great shape.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LIKE!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[racerxcrewchief]

Ya....ok, ILL SAY IT!
Hummingbird had a great year last year as far as racing was concerned and surface conditions. There were so many photo finishes and battles in the top 5 in every class it was intense. Amp's Drivers cant go 5 laps without a yellow. With that being said, I don't blame the drivers or the track crew, that track just sucks, nothing but one lane!!! and I for one am excited to see how the renovations turn out for them this year. should allow for better racing and I wish the best of luck to them. As far as the rules go, I understand the business decision that "HAD" to be made, but Snooky was right to say you might as well give them big tires and race with the Street Stocks.

My son had no trouble passing on the inside or outside. It's all your mind set. If the late models can run at higher speeds on the outside so can your purestock.

[The Legend]

My son had no trouble passing on the inside or outside. It's all your mind set. If the late models can run at higher speeds on the outside so can your purestock.

It depends on who your passing, just because you passed cars on the outside doesn't always mean the outside is there it could just mean your way faster than the car you passed. Thats why big money races become trains sometimes , because all the cars are almost the same speed soif you get out of the good lane you go backwards

[racerxcrewchief]

It depends on who your passing, just because you passed cars on the outside doesn't always mean the outside is there it could just mean your way faster than the car you passed. Thats why big money races become trains sometimes , because all the cars are almost the same speed soif you get out of the good lane you go backwards

Some drivers can only pass on the bottom and never give the outside a go.

[greaseball]

Most guys that pass on the outside are the ones with big hammers under the hood.