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[Sparkler]

Turn 1 during the features.

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[Chrome Horn]

There is no way the 25 car was worth 25 grand. Davy  Lee must be hitting the bottle again. And he was running last so not sure how he got wrecked.

[1k sportsman]

Mark and crew are very nice guys just trying to have fun. They are a new team going through growing pains. His crew has been putting a lot of hours in and I'm assuming that lead to the frustration to the crew when they saw the car destroyed. They are a team that will help and give anything to a fellow racer. Hopefully they return to the play ground soon. Btw. That's not a $25k chassis. Not sure how that figure came about. Lol

[Raz900]

Can someone explain why the racers keep going back to PPMS knowing how bad it is!

 

After 15 years of racing there, and going there off and on since 1987, I think I've finally had enough. I have rocks the size of golf balls laying on top of my rad, I couldn't see, fans couldn't see... even the track workers couldn't see. Single file restarts annouced before we even started because they knew we wouldn't be able to see. 

 

Before the caution with 2 laps to go in the sportsman feature, I watched a hunk of metal get hit at race speed for 2 laps, then for 2-3 laps under caution I watched it get hit again all the way around turn 1 and 2. Including the front of my car and flying over the pass side fender. That's when I stopped on the beginning of the back stretch trying to point at it while everyone else drove by and the track ignored me. I think they were yelling at me on the radio to get moving, but I didn't want them to turn us loose with that in the middle of the track. From what I could see it was a couple bars and aluminum from someone's bumper and in the 5 - 10 lb range. Doesn't Nascar throw a caution for a water bottle?

 

I've needed a new car for years... 15 years on a chassis is crazy and this convinced me to put 'the blonde' out to pasture. The fun of racing at PPMS is gone.

 

A friend that takes phone camera videos from the stands shared some with me today. I'll see about getting them on youtube this week.

[jo73]

Sparkler. The picture you posted, and I will ask others, is this truly how BAD the conditions where ? If so, WHY, are drivers putting themselves in harms way. PPMS, there is no excuse. RIDICULOUS !!!

I see many have loyalties to the track and management. Why, I don't understand. The track will never be what it was. If this doesn't fall under a safety issue then I don't no what does. I've seen the remains of a car that got slammed into. Many thought the driver was in very serious condition, it was not his day to be called, drivers need to just pull off the track. Don't guess, just do it, everyone will be happy you did.

[The Legend]

Does anyone have pics of this car ??? And I'm pretty sure one of the water trucks is broken down. For the record I didn't ask that the bottom not be watered , I said if it gets watered it needs run in so its a race able surface

[Sloane]

I would agree with Jo73 if the track conditions are so bad the teams should just boycott the facility.  Its not worth someone getting seriously injured or worse.  And I wouldn't find fault with the fans boycotting the place either since the stands are in such poor condition.  No one wants to see a facility close but if your concerns are falling on deaf ears its time to stop supporting the place.

[4FUN]

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[The Legend]

Wtf did the guy hit ???

[galloomp]

The post at the pitt entrance in turns1/2

[Racer17L]

Jon- the telephone pole on the inside between turns 1 and 2, not the big white tire post at the end of the straightaway.  I have no clue how he did that much damage on the inside of the track mid turn.

[The Legend]

So he looped it into a telephone pole and wanted to fight smokey ???

[Hot Dog]

So he looped it into a telephone pole and wanted to fight smokey ???

Not only wanted to fight an old man, but got choked by an old man. That dude had a rough night.

[714d]

Damn. Now the place needs a water truck, bleachers, and add to the list...... Safer barriers lol. No matter how it happened and who is to blame, that's a bad wreck. Hope the dude is ok.

[Racer17L]

It was his crew guy but yes they had a rough night.

[LM RACING]

There had to be a weak spot in the chassis for it to bend the way it did. I cant imagine that sliding sideways mid turn that he was carying enough speed to do that much damage. The post would have sheared off as long as its been in the ground.

[RmiT]

If I am not mistaken, there are steel rails there, as well...

[The Legend]

A weak spot on a 25k chassis ????

[scruffy1a]

Sparkler. The picture you posted, and I will ask others, is this truly how BAD the conditions where ? If so, WHY, are drivers putting themselves in harms way. PPMS, there is no excuse. RIDICULOUS !!!

Yes, jo73, it was really that bad.  And here are the ruts:

[4FUN]

Screen shot from my brother's Go-Pro going into turn 1 after getting the green.....

 

Quality racing conditions!!!!!

 

Hat's off to everyone for not killing each other. 

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