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[Street Stocker]

What I don't get is all this complaining over implementing a STOCK motor, when nobody says a word when tracks allow  racing transmissions, roller cams, aftermarket suspension configurations, headwork, etc at other tracks.  THOSE are the items that have really ruined this class, not a stock motor.  Although I will admit that Lernervillle is one of the few tracks that managed to keep most of those items off the cars.   

Edited by Street Stocker, 22 October 2015 - 07:57 AM.

[greencar55]

Lernerville's  old  rules. no roller cam's - no head porting-stock head's- no aftermarket blocks- no racing trans.- vac. secnd. carb. no racing ign. box. & you didn't need to spend 10 grand to build a wining engine. New rules $5600.00 engine- &800.00 crate carb.- &400.00 crate distributer - $600.00crate headers $400.00 crate pully's & belts -  $600.00 drum off cheater fuel & you can' t even work on your engine if something simple go's wrong. Yea that sounds like a grate deal !!!

[Davesr14g]

I remember when the whiners on here want someone to make rules for all the tracks to follow now that someone trying to do it chronic whiners are now whine about it   lol

[whiteboy55]

Davesr14g, on 22 Oct 2015 - 3:20 PM, said:

I remember when the whiners on here want someone to make rules for all the tracks to follow now that someone trying to do it chronic whiners are now whine about it   lol

you are a blind bat

[greencar55]

My car will be there for the old fart race but I'm not driving.

[racer67x]

Davesr14g, on 22 Oct 2015 - 3:20 PM, said:

I remember when the whiners on here want someone to make rules for all the tracks to follow now that someone trying to do it chronic whiners are now whine about it   lol

I remember when Jook was pissed they mandated small blocks and did away with big blocks..but at least you could still fix your head gaskets without having to pay someone..

come on greencar,strap in that bitch tonight..I'll give you a run trying to beat my old ass..lol

[greencar55]

would be fun to race ya Danny but he's ben wanting to drive my car for 15 years. I will be racing ppms next year we can go at it then

[Street Stocker]

You are right, Lernerville had a good rules package and was keeping the division in check for the most part!  But they were one of the few tracks!  All of these Penn-Ohio cars are way out of control, and nobody complains about that is what I find is funny.   I guess it is better for them to point the needle back into the other direction with a STOCK motor than to go the Penn-Ohio route like Mercer & Sharon of allowing just about anything to run on those cars.

Edited by Street Stocker, 22 October 2015 - 11:53 AM.

[Davesr14g]

am I blind  your as knowagable as a democrat do research on what I said I've be in racing longer than you been alive and has heard this everytime some whiner change the rules and someone doesn't like the  rule change I did the same thing when the spec motor came about and was proved wrong. Prove me wrong and I will show a post where it was talked about. I was there when the big blocks were in the semi-late with the 3/4 ton rear ends and 2 bl carb when jook tried o boycott ppms on another matter people like you said good maybe we can win if they don't come  so I ve seen and hard it all nothing you or anyone else can tell me something that hasn't been said before and I have said some of it but most o the race teams say nothing .

[714d]

The penn Ohio series rules are perfect for them. They get good car counts at all of their shows. The problem is, a regular weekly street stock guy can't afford to run with them anymore. its as though weekly street stock racing is dead, but as a specials only class it is stronger than ever.

[whiteboy55]

Davesr14g, on 22 Oct 2015 - 5:35 PM, said:

am I blind  your as knowagable as a democrat do research on what I said I've be in racing longer than you been alive and has heard this everytime some whiner change the rules and someone doesn't like the  rule change I did the same thing when the spec motor came about and was proved wrong. Prove me wrong and I will show a post where it was talked about. I was there when the big blocks were in the semi-late with the 3/4 ton rear ends and 2 bl carb when jook tried o boycott ppms on another matter people like you said good maybe we can win if they don't come  so I ve seen and hard it all nothing you or anyone else can tell me something that hasn't been said before and I have said some of it but most o the race teams say nothing .

Do you think that Crate Late Models are a better option than Limited Late Models were in 2004?

[The Legend]

There was nothing wrong with the 2004 limited late rules

[Skull]

Davesr14g, on 22 Oct 2015 - 5:35 PM, said:

am I blind  your as knowagable as a democrat do research on what I said I've be in racing longer than you been alive and has heard this everytime some whiner change the rules and someone doesn't like the  rule change I did the same thing when the spec motor came about and was proved wrong. Prove me wrong and I will show a post where it was talked about. I was there when the big blocks were in the semi-late with the 3/4 ton rear ends and 2 bl carb when jook tried o boycott ppms on another matter people like you said good maybe we can win if they don't come  so I ve seen and hard it all nothing you or anyone else can tell me something that hasn't been said before and I have said some of it but most o the race teams say nothing .

First of all, try to be a little more coherent.

 

Secondly, nothing you have said has anything to do with the change Lernerville is mandating for Stocks. They are not allowing or banning specific engine or chassis components. Teams are being asked to buy one specific engine package that they can't modify or repair in order to compete at Lernerville, rendering anything that most of the teams already own and/or build and maintain, useless for competition there. The flip side is that a third party has a stake in this, of which Lernerville has no control, and in my opinion, they are asking for trouble throwing in with Vikki Emig.

[Davesr14g]

lol

Edited by Davesr14g, 23 October 2015 - 04:14 AM.

[whiteboy55]

Davesr14g, on 23 Oct 2015 - 12:57 AM, said:

since your to  not going to say it I will say this maybe you can probally not the tracks  have changed there rules to what the drivers have asked in the past  headers and so on hope you can understand that now that the track is changing the rule to help them . In the past people have been on here wanting the same rule at all the tracks so they could run any where using the same rules this is one of the things crate engine does I know this over your head but I tried         must of voted for Obama and reid

thanks for tryin

[Crusty1]

greencar55, on 22 Oct 2015 - 1:32 PM, said:

Lernerville's  old  rules. no roller cam's - no head porting-stock head's- no aftermarket blocks- no racing trans.- vac. secnd. carb. no racing ign. box. & you didn't need to spend 10 grand to build a wining engine. New rules $5600.00 engine- &800.00 crate carb.- &400.00 crate distributer - $600.00crate headers $400.00 crate pully's & belts -  $600.00 drum off cheater fuel & you can' t even work on your engine if something simple go's wrong. Yea that sounds like a grate deal !!!

First off I don't care what motor you or anyone run.

BUT I know guys that race crates where they don't spend this kind of money on special carbs,pulley systems,headers...... When you build a 358 are all those parts free?

[Davesr14g]

last word from me when they do what they want all you have done Is post your view which won't stop there plans  just like in the past

[Benny K]

54 cars and 18 crates according to twitter

Edited by Benny K, 23 October 2015 - 08:07 PM.

[Crusty1]

Went to LV tonight to my surprise they had 18 crate sportsman - 16 made it thru the night to run the feature.

I'm done listening to Greencar 55 and all the other Crate Haters, if this is the start of the division it will only get better. I'm sure this will be one of the best races of the weekend. I'm sure the open Stocks will also be good.
My point is you guys post that these engines are boreing, you're wrong.