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#41 starboyshady

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 06:21 PM

FUEL:
1. Only Sunoco Racing Fuel - Standard (commonly referred to as 110 and/or purple) and/or RUSH 91 will be the specified fuels permitted for competition in RUSH Racing Series sanctioned events. (Note: there will be a 2-race burn-off of 2015 legal fuels at each RUSH weekly- sanctioned speedway. Contact the RUSH Office with any questions.) Additives and/or blending of any type including; methanol, alcohol, nitrous oxide, propylene oxide, nitromethane or other performance enhancing chemical additives will not be permitted. NO mixing of the Sunoco 110 & RUSH 91. Fuel may be tested from time-to-time and/or submitted for verification by designated RUSH Racing Series and/or Track Officials to Sunoco Race Fuels.
2. It is the racers responsibility to know what he or she is putting in the fuel cell. Series reserves the right to check fuel anytime. Three samples will be taken by RUSH or Track Official. Each sample will be indentified as sample #1, sample #2, and sample #3. Sample #1 will be retained by Series and sent to lab; sample #2 will be given to selected fuel's driver/owner; and sample #3 will be retained by Series to be utilized as a tie-breaker in the event any issues may occur with samples #1 & #2. In the event driver/owner chooses to send sample #2 to be analyzed, RUSH must approve selected lab. Fuel samples not conforming to RUSH Late Model Series Fuel rule will be deemed illegal.
3. PENALTIES FOR FUEL VIOLATIONS OR FAILURE TO ALLOW FUEL SAMPLE TO BE TAKEN: Disqualification from event (loss of points and money) in addition to the following penalties:
First Offense: $500 fine & 30-day suspension from any RUSH-sanctioned event
Second Offense: $1,000 fine & 90-day suspension from any RUSH-sanctioned event.
Third Offense: $2,000 fine & 365-day suspension from any RUSH-sanctioned event.
ALL DECISIONS ARE FINAL.



 

#42 Walt Wimer

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 07:58 PM

Sunoco grew by over 10% last year.  Yes they did, by buying out a large C-store chain in Texas with over 600 stores!!    

 

GOOD RACING!!!

 

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:24 PM

Geez, take your ball and go home if you don't like the playground rules. Try to run NASCAR with American Racers, take your street stock to Indy, show everyone how fast you are. Don't you ever sober up and get the fact that rules are not preventing you from being a front runner, let alone a champion, you lack the talent!!  It is plain and simple. stop blaming others and rules for your lack of comprehension.




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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:31 PM

Huh, in the list of dealers posted I see it says precise racing products. In a earlier post it was said you can BUY 5 GAL at there location. In the release I see the rule states you can ONLY BUY DRUMS. Makes both parties look really bad. Do they not no what each other is saying or doing ? WONDER WHAT THE FINE AND SUSPENSION IS FOR SELLING FUEL IN 5 GALLOS ? answer is ? Don't hold ur breath....


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 09:11 PM

I'm sure the only interest for Rush to restrict and control where racers can buy fuel is to maintain equity in engines.  It makes no sense to seal an engine and not seal the fuel.  Hats off to them on an expanded way to maintain the integrity of their series.  I see it as another step to insure equity and controlled cost of their racers power plants.  

 

I enjoy very much watching the car which can get through the corners the best win.  It's common place for me to watch the top car only succeed in passing a lapped car because of corner speed or driver skill.  

 

Am I the only one who notices how even cars are in performance on the back stretch, weather a front runner or a back marker? 




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Posted 17 March 2016 - 12:40 AM

I'm sure the only interest for Rush to restrict and control where racers can buy fuel is to maintain equity in engines.  It makes no sense to seal an engine and not seal the fuel.  Hats off to them on an expanded way to maintain the integrity of their series.  I see it as another step to insure equity and controlled cost of their racers power plants.  

 

I enjoy very much watching the car which can get through the corners the best win.  It's common place for me to watch the top car only succeed in passing a lapped car because of corner speed or driver skill.  

 

Am I the only one who notices how even cars are in performance on the back stretch, weather a front runner or a back marker? 

 

How does this seal the fuel? You can add anything you want to it once you got it.

Maybe so someone doesn't cut half a drum with Sheetz lopo 87 and try and make a quick buck, but anyone in the know doesn't buy race fuel unless it is in a sealed drum, except from a very trusted source.


Edited by BUTTBEAK, 17 March 2016 - 12:41 AM.



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Posted 17 March 2016 - 12:51 AM

Just sell this stuff !! For hauler's of course!

 

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 06:09 AM

Does anyone actually get it???   The 91 is in drums. The 110 you can buy wherever and in drums or 5 gallons or out of someones tank at a track if they have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Posted 17 March 2016 - 07:39 AM

I remember being told by a methanol supplier the limit you can carry without jumping through hoops is two 55 gallon drums.  My understanding is it's ok even inside a van.  You can carry two because the limit is just above 110 gallons.  I'm thinking maybe 119 figuring weight in general at 35 pounds to a gallon will put you under the weight limit with two and three would put you over it.  Was I told correctly about methanol?  I also think if your going to transport three drums it's not allowed to be inside a closed vehicle or trailer, but I'm not sure about that either.

 

The only reason to post this info is to ask if the same restrictions are on gas or are they maybe more strict for gas?   I think unlike gas Methanol and Alcohol are not even considered pollutants except when spilled in large quantities.

 

What is the limit of gas you can legally carry inside your trailer?  I'm guessing it's probably a non issue with gas because you will use less gas then alcohol racing.  But just being a dumb question asking ignorant fan who shouldn't ask questions or talk about something I don't know anything about, I'd like to know because of my interest in racing.  :)  




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Posted 17 March 2016 - 08:21 AM

Fuel weight is 6 to 7 lbs a gallon or 324 or 378 plus the weight of drum .... Not only is weight a issue , but it is flammable and the DOT requires placards over a certain amount for HAZ-MAT LOADS ........ Then you need a CDL w HAZ-MAT ENDORSMENT ........ This is a whole new can of worms , lol


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 08:23 AM

Pretty sure it's 75 gallons without a Haz-Mat license ........


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 11:34 AM

A Hazmat endorsement is required over 1000 lbs of fully regulated hazmat cargo. Any gasoline in a container larger than 1 liter and not in a consumer dispensing device (gas can) with the intention of transporting would be fully regulated and require hazmat marking, label and hazmat shipping paper. Plus emergency response information in the driver's possession. Any of us throwing a single drum (let alone 2-4 drums) in pick up truck can be heavily fined, if its for a commercial purpose its even worse.  I scratch up a hazmat shipping document for myself when I pick up my fuel and try to limit myself to 2 drums, but being that's what I do I know how to keep complaint.

If anyone ever wants to be 100% legal I'd be glad to help, I'm a hazmat shipping expert for a major carrier based in Pittsburgh.




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Posted 17 March 2016 - 12:43 PM

I wasn't sure if they went by weight or gallons ..... But I do know it can get real expensive , very quickly ...... Then if there is a Racecar involved , you truck is now a commercial vehicle and a new set of rules ...... Lol.


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:31 PM

Parocket, I worked for a large national company and had to carry various cleaning products and lubricants in my work van.  We use to have to have a file with us containing info on each and every product.  I'm retired now for a few years but before I retired it became know to us we no longer needed to carry the paperwork.  The law is written to say we have to have it available to us and since we carried a laptop we had it on out laptop.  When we first got wireless cards so we could get online anywhere, all we had to then do is know where on the web to find the info.  With today's phones being able to access the web, might some employee training on how to find the info be enough to satisfy having access to the information?   I just now thought you might be able to provide all needed and required info on a usb key which could be read on a phone or tablet.  

 

On a side note, one of the hundreds of certifications I've been required to have over the years to work on equipment was electronic scales and I had to take a test for Ohio in Columbus with the state.  It was an open book test and since I would normally use my laptop for information and the book was in pdf form on my laptop, I asked if I could use the book contained on my laptop.  I was told I was the first to ask and it would be fine since that is the way I would use the book.  It sure made taking the certification test easy, being able to do an electronic search for information needed to answer questions instead of paging through a book.


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:50 PM

I can't believe what is happening to racing, it used to be so simple!




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Posted 17 March 2016 - 06:34 PM

I can't believe what is happening to racing, it used to be so simple!

Ain't that the truth

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Posted 18 March 2016 - 07:08 AM

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There is a materials of trade (MOT) exception for just what you were doing, it covers painters, gardeners and I'm sure a whole group of professionals that use a regulated chemical as part of their trade. The exception allows for a reasonable amount for the jobs underway to be carried in the vehicle when going about their business. Its close to the same reasoning that a can of fix a flat in my jeep is ok, but when we ship a box of them it has additional requirements such as a marking on the box. Its a limited amount of something very common.

 

I think if I had to I could argue a MOT exception for a racer with 5 gallon cans on board a race car trailer. Its when there is drums for fuel in a bed of a truck or like I do on my utility trailer that the MOT would not be covered.




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Posted 18 March 2016 - 07:57 AM

Most of this is markings for emergency personal responding to any type of incident, what is funny, I don't care who you talk to they all have a varied description of how the rules are determined. We were inspected at a job site, in the trailer were oils, fuel, and SPRAY CAN assortments. Minimal quantities. We did not have a fire extinguisher, we were told that the trailer would have to be removed immediately. RIGHT. I went to the local hardware store and bought a sticker that said fire ext. inside. Never bothered again. It's the same with DOT inspections. I don't care who you talk to, everybody has a different answer.    




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Posted 18 March 2016 - 01:26 PM

Most of this is markings for emergency personal responding to any type of incident, what is funny, I don't care who you talk to they all have a varied description of how the rules are determined. We were inspected at a job site, in the trailer were oils, fuel, and SPRAY CAN assortments. Minimal quantities. We did not have a fire extinguisher, we were told that the trailer would have to be removed immediately. RIGHT. I went to the local hardware store and bought a sticker that said fire ext. inside. Never bothered again. It's the same with DOT inspections. I don't care who you talk to, everybody has a different answer.    

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Posted 18 March 2016 - 01:56 PM

All this trouble to make sure you are buying the specific fuel. Wouldnt it b just as easy to test for plain ole 92 octane sheets fuel. Oh I forgot it's only 2:20 a gal. Not 4:15. There is already an issue of the amount of racers. Forcing them to pay twice the going rate for things to race . is not helping





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