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[94.3-RADRACER]

in 3 years, these babies are going to be everywhere.......and what a race........vicki does it again. 

[clwillis]

Takes the air out of the equation and puts the driver back in.

[Sparkler]

Looks like in 3 years a lot of people will be finding another place to spend their Friday nights. 

[jo73]

O somebody please tell us. How many paying customers were in attendance ? Or don't we need them for the promotor to open the gates ? Or for insurance ? Or to pay the help ? I bet the announcer, flagman, and the officials donated there time.

[94.3-RADRACER]

best race lernerville has had this year, and the so called real race fans bash it.  73, you don't live anywhere near here, so why does your mouth run......sparkler, they already are, this division might just bring them back........

[FanJim24]

best race lernerville has had this year, and the so called real race fans bash it.  73, you don't live anywhere near here, so why does your mouth run......sparkler, they already are, this division might just bring them back........

I'm curious, because I work Wednesday nights, otherwise I might go to see the ministocks and ATVs, how did it stack up against the Friday night race where the winner finished in the wall ahead of 3rd place by milliseconds and the contact that put him in the wall was incidental. 

Edited by FanJim24, 18 May 2018 - 08:16 AM.

[94.3-RADRACER]

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[Rusty_Nuts]

94.3, Best race Lernerville has had all year? Its also the first time the surface has been anything but total $hit. You can thank mother nature for that. 

[bhhracing]

I agree Rusty nuts. If it wasn't for all that rain that came through to make the track good you'd be reading about how slow these things were if they got a crap track like the past two Fridays we raced were the Sprint's slid all over.

[94.3-RADRACER]

then I wasn't wrong. wingless sprints do slide everywhere anyhow....that's what makes there racing fun to watch....

[sicario]

This is the best idea and series to come from rush. It's driver reliant and has no aero. These cars aren't vastly underpowered and it should be by far the best racing from any crate class. And for that matter, Lernerville has had 3 races.... but yea, they're interesting because of the lack of downforce and their unpredictability, basically everything the lates aren't.

[94.3-RADRACER]

agree.......saw heats, and feature.......were awesome.

[dirtstudent2]

Lets hope with the success of RUSH selling parts and services to racers and the future  bleeding off of racers from their 410 ranks potentially destroying the Thompsons established Friday Show, they charge the parts pushers a = Fair Price to use their quality track   

 

Whats a fair price can only be known and set by the Thompsons.  My guess is parts and service sellers should not be given exclusive use of a class to provide their racer customers a place to race for less then $5000 for each class.  Another fair charge would be to charge each car which is useless unless raced in competition with other racer customer cars, a $75 or more surcharge beyond normal back gate fees.  Some racers have made the decision to leave the ranks of the established  racing community weakening it and move to what is offered by sellers of goods and services.  Because who they bought into owns no track for them to use what they purchased, there is no reason tracks should not charge each car at a minimum $75 or more surcharge to use the track.    

 

My point is sellers of parts and services to racers have no place for their racer customers to use what they have been sold, that's it period.   I think in this situation its the tracks who are in power businesswise.   Tracks are not being presented a premium promoted show they can gain from through front gate ticket sales.  Tracks are being hyped and sold a bill of goods whose sole purpose is to provide a venue for sellers of goods and services to racers. 

 

 

[dirtstudent2]

in 3 years, these babies are going to be everywhere.......and what a race........vicki does it again. 

 

 

94.3.  You expressed your thoughts on how you think the new exclusive vendor sold to racers is the greatest thing since controlled late racing was sold to racers.

 

i put down in my last post reason i think it is not,   Do you have any input of reason to support your starting this thread.  i read your first post as just blowing smoke for the sake of watching hot air rise.

[dirtstudent2]

i strongly feel eventually tracks as for profit business enterprises will realize the golden apple they have been given because without them purveyor of parts and services  have no place to display their wares.  Tracks do not need to negotiate anything for the use of their track by merchants to racers.  They are in the cat bird seat to demand their price for the use of their track.  Anything less then bleed all the juice out the golden apple as possible is not enough.  Tracks your power is further enhanced because with a stroke of a pen within your rule book, you can replace at your will what ever you choose.

 

There's a big difference between a promoter bringing you a show to sell to front gate fans and merchants who cannot exist without the use of your trach.  

[sicario]

 
 
94.3.  You expressed your thoughts on how you think the new exclusive vendor sold to racers is the greatest thing since controlled late racing was sold to racers.
 
i put down in my last post reason i think it is not,   Do you have any input of reason to support your starting this thread.  i read your first post as just blowing smoke for the sake of watching hot air rise.

It's one of those things the V hive didn't say anything about until it was on the track. After waiting before commenting, the rush sprints are now the best thing in racing.... right behind the last release from rush HQ. The product was good but my guess is the fan demand and interest was not. That is why nobody has mentioned attendance. I def think thefe is a market for this and that it is a good idea. Sprints in this area are meh at best and have really lost steam. I have stated my opinion on the other rush series before so >'m not going to speak to those, just that i've felt that this had decent potential despite being a monopoly driven expansion series. There's actually a place for this.

Edited by sicario, 18 May 2018 - 03:32 PM.

[Hans Solo]

Lets hope with the success of RUSH selling parts and services to racers and the future  bleeding off of racers from their 410 ranks potentially destroying the Thompsons established Friday Show, they charge the parts pushers a = Fair Price to use their quality track   

 

Whats a fair price can only be known and set by the Thompsons.  My guess is parts and service sellers should not be given exclusive use of a class to provide their racer customers a place to race for less then $5000 for each class.  Another fair charge would be to charge each car which is useless unless raced in competition with other racer customer cars, a $75 or more surcharge beyond normal back gate fees.  Some racers have made the decision to leave the ranks of the established  racing community weakening it and move to what is offered by sellers of goods and services.  Because who they bought into owns no track for them to use what they purchased, there is no reason tracks should not charge each car at a minimum $75 or more surcharge to use the track.    

 

My point is sellers of parts and services to racers have no place for their racer customers to use what they have been sold, that's it period.   I think in this situation its the tracks who are in power businesswise.   Tracks are not being presented a premium promoted show they can gain from through front gate ticket sales.  Tracks are being hyped and sold a bill of goods whose sole purpose is to provide a venue for sellers of goods and services to racers. 

 

 

There is so much wrong with this post(thinking) I don't know where to begin.  But it sounds like if a track races a class that is supposed to save the racer costs,  you want to surcharge them for use of the track.  Is this your point.???  Or is it that the sanction body is involved in the sale of parts and services.  Which racers pay anyway no matter what the class.   

[whiteboy55]

There is so much wrong with this post(thinking) I don't know where to begin.  But it sounds like if a track races a class that is supposed to save the racer costs,  you want to surcharge them for use of the track.  Is this your point.???  Or is it that the sanction body is involved in the sale of parts and services.  Which racers pay anyway no matter what the class.   

My point is sellers of parts and services to racers have no place for their racer customers to use what they have been sold, that's it period.   I think in this situation its the tracks who are in power businesswise.   Tracks are not being presented a premium promoted show they can gain from through front gate ticket sales.  Tracks are being hyped and sold a bill of goods whose sole purpose is to provide a venue for sellers of goods and services to racers. 

 

read this part, you're missing his point. he is dead on!

[sicario]

My point is sellers of parts and services to racers have no place for their racer customers to use what they have been sold, that's it period.   I think in this situation its the tracks who are in power businesswise.   Tracks are not being presented a premium promoted show they can gain from through front gate ticket sales.  Tracks are being hyped and sold a bill of goods whose sole purpose is to provide a venue for sellers of goods and services to racers. 
 
read this part, you're missing his point. he is dead on!

Absolutely correct

[dirtstudent2]

Unless track owners just cant see through the hype, they will never see. The only contract a track needs to enter into with seller of goods and services is one which has them receiving high dollar penalty money if the merchant to racers does not provide an acceptable show.  An example might be that if the merchant cannot provide a minimum of 10 cars, they will be charged an additional 5 or 10 thousand penalty dollars for the obvious hurt lack of performance did to the tracks over all show.  

 

But i suspect such a benefit is not available this racing year to tracks because the merchants being superior negotiators  have locked in their must have racing venues  for their racer customers.

 

i have to thank FASTRACK for answering on this site about how their customers are racers and tracks.  It appears to me FASTRACK has two marketing areas.  One is marketing crate products to racers and the other is marketing super late shows to tracks for enhanced front gate ticket sales.