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[whiteboy55]

Put them all back on 8 in. wheels with a hard tire and let them all race together. Those 604's will be just as fast as open's. 

 

I watched Steve D'apolitto (84) dominate the Applefest100 years ago with a 602 against the best cars in the area, everyone ran small tires then, it was the equalizer.

 

The class was ruined the day they let Late Model tires on Stock-cars, it allowed big horse-power and big money to take over, both things that that class was never intended for. 

 

You cannot eliminate the knowledgeable racer, the guy who can do it himself is what made the class.

Edited by whiteboy55, 01 November 2018 - 02:43 PM.

[DavyLee2]

Whiteboy wisdom always makes me feel better
Another quote from many years ago from this wise man
it took a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan

[blue by you]

so the pms racers are going to pull their motors out of there cars hang them on motor stands an go out an spend 5or 6 grand on a 604 motor but your not done yet youll be buying the spec tires an fuel......all to race for 300 bucks. wheres logic in that.

[DavyLee2]

Yes Blue
Now You are supposed to jump up and down and scream
I just saved a ton of money on my Racing
Again
Good bye to the guy with a 4000. 604 that doesnt mind being outclassed on a tacky track but feels competitive in the slick months
Good bye or spend a pile of money
Another thing that kills low budget teams is how they change the rules every year !
All it takes is Money to change SOMETHING every year !

[DavyLee2]

There is a positive if you were starting out and dreamed of running Pittsburgh and Sarver like many have
But they always kept their stock cars different except for specials

[jo73]

I wonder how many of the lernerville guys were able to sell there motors from there sportsman cars of 2 years ago ?

Let's not forget the cost everyone of those same racers had to spend to play in the crate game. What 7 to 10 grand ?

What did lernerville pay for a feature win ? So IF it costs racer A 8 grand and in those 2 yrs you raced 20 times at lernerville that's 400.00 a race. So we're was the savings ?

As a racer you are never going to show a profit. Crate racing was created because of SLM motor costs.
Today those motor costs are shared by all 3 top divisions. Racers in these divisions could no longer be competitive by building there powerplants.

The sportsman guys still had that option. Well not anymore. How many 406's are sitting under a tarp in a corner.

[dirtstudent2]

How can crate racing be cheap yet be able to support Vickey, Mike, the engine builders and the bottom line for Sweeney and GM?

 

answer:  it's not cheap it's marketing to a select group of people.  The only reason for their numbers is there's more people now and a large enough group for them to feed off of, then there was 30 and 40 years ago.  If you can't afford to spend 30 grand a year on your racing hobbie you can't afford crate racing and should stick to normal classes of racing.  

[weinerdog]

Dirt student how much of your money have you spent on racing ??????

[friends with everybody]

The thing is whos coming from lernerville its hard enough to race one night let alone two not many guys travel that much anymore. So thinking doing this is going to put 20 cars at pms not happening imo. Just remember you screwed these guys with a race that was canceled day of guys remember. JMO

[blue by you]

The thing is whos coming from lernerville its hard enough to race one night let alone two not many guys travel that much anymore. So thinking doing this is going to put 20 cars at pms not happening imo. Just remember you screwed these guys with a race that was canceled day of guys remember. JMO

your rght friends......thats not happening maybe miss rush is selling that b.s. to matt miley. it cost enough to race one night a week.

[old man d]

When my Son raced at PPMS I asked why we only raced one night, his reply it cost to much to race two nights.

[Walt Wimer]

Big change from the 50s when I grew up watching the old coupes race.  In NASCAR for a couple of years a driver could race 7 times a week!!!!  Tuesday through Saturday and twice on Sunday on the old Penn-Ohio circuit. Of course few did so, but the big stars such as Mike Klapak. Dick Linder, Mike Little and Dick Bailey did so much of the time!!

 

 

GOOD RACING TO All

 

Walt

[Sparkler]

Always has a few big wrecks every Friday Also in that division it seems. I never stay for them as work comes early Saturday morning.

[old man d]

Walt my neighbor had a coupe and it seemed we would be going racing in the summer every night. After the car was built he gave me two pales of paint and two brushes and told me to paint the car and put a number on it. We all had fun and that is what it is all about. The year was 1956.

[racer67x]

Always has a few big wrecks every Friday Also in that division it seems. I never stay for them as work comes early Saturday morning.

probably because its like restrictor plate racing..you make a pass but can't get away,hes still there at the other end.

[DavyLee2]

Walt
One other aspect of the 50,s and 60,s that is always overlooked
Don Luffey told me and the group at the table at an old timers banquet that he woul race at least 5 nights per week and make 70 to 90 dollars per night !
In today’s money .... that is BIG BUCKS
If you don’t place top 3 now days you get 50 bucks for your performance

[TCM29]

Walt
One other aspect of the 50,s and 60,s that is always overlooked
Don Luffey told me and the group at the table at an old timers banquet that he woul race at least 5 nights per week and make 70 to 90 dollars per night !
In today’s money .... that is BIG BUCKS
If you don’t place top 3 now days you get 50 bucks for your performance

 50 Bucks? On one occasion I made over $100 from two (preliminary) races at Raceway 7 before the feature event. That was 45 years ago! 

[DavyLee2]

100 bucks

 45 years ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is how much this country has been fleeced of it wealth !!!! Thanks for sharing that !!!

another example

a 1963 quarter is worth 4 bucks SCRAP right now today any time any place that trades in precious metals

 

a 2018 quarter is worth 3.5 cents !!!

 

Racing parts don't cost allot ... Americas wealth and value of its money has been fleeced !

Well ONE GUY IS GETTING IT BACK! and if you don't get it ! you deserve a Transgender bathroom at your grade school because you asked for it !

[TCM29]

100 bucks

 45 years ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is how much this country has been fleeced of it wealth !!!! Thanks for sharing that !!!

another example

a 1963 quarter is worth 4 bucks SCRAP right now today any time any place that trades in precious metals

 

a 2018 quarter is worth 3.5 cents !!!

 

Racing parts don't cost allot ... Americas wealth and value of its money has been fleeced !

Well ONE GUY IS GETTING IT BACK! and if you don't get it ! you deserve a Transgender bathroom at your grade school because you asked for it !

Haha! FYI-the 1973 RW7 late model heat race (which paid $40 to win) would have to pay over $237.00 in 2018 to keep up with inflation. I highly doubt the late models of today are using Sunoco 260 at $.50 per gallon either. I guess those were the best of times, but even back then the old timers used to say how much cheaper it was 25 years before that.

[DavyLee2]

Pittsburgh will not be running monopoly motors in the ProStiock class
But will be looking at ways to help Crates keep up with open motors
Per Miley Motorsports that thanked everyone for their emails
But Im sure it was mine that made up their mind
Lol