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DegenerationX

Member Since 21 Oct 2009
Offline Last Active Oct 22 2023 01:14 PM
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In Topic: Lernerville Stampede Finale Results Today/Tonight: 10-15-23

17 October 2023 - 07:52 PM

I like your idea, but that's a big financial risk that late in the season without a backgate supported by those divisions "no one wants to watch".  While that may be mostly true, those bottom 3-4 divisions practically pay themselves.  Your idea is $45,000 to win alone, not to mention the payout throughout the field.  As a fan, I'd love to see it, but I wouldn't want to be the guy signing the checks and balancing the ledger on Sunday.  Even at $45 per person for a two day ticket, you'd need 1000 people through the gates just to pay the winners.  Local racing has shown that $5,000 or $10,000 to win shows don't always bring bigger fields, especially in a near recession at the end of the season and with a purse that's top heavy and falls off a cliff and barely paying tow money for positions 11 through 20 or 24.  The purses for the Stampede may not pay 5/10K to win, but the payout top to bottom is decent.  I do like the idea of splitting the divisions up over two nights, but to jo's point, you're not getting anywhere near a fab four crowd Friday night up against high school football and then if the weather is crappy Saturday night you're taking a five figure bath to finish your season.  That's how tracks end up on the Berkshire Hathaway site!

 

No, hes right. There was low attendance for this event last year too with much better weather. This is my yearly
take that this is a nothing happening event that could be so much
better if they eliminated some classes that no one wants to see and raised the purses in the classes that people that do, namely the big 3, maybe also the Rush lates. Drawing a better quality of car in every division will draw more people. As it is, youre expecting people to make a big deal over regular show fields with 4 or 5 backgate classes.

Super Lates, Sprints, Modifieds, Rush Lates 10,000 to win.
Street Stocks 5,000 to win.


In Topic: Lernerville Stampede Finale Results Today/Tonight: 10-15-23

17 October 2023 - 07:36 PM

That is a true statement, Fall Fest at Challenger was the best!!

 

All tracks that have the back gate grab and run, all deal with weather. It's usually getting chilly, the weather can flip 180 degree's within hours. Then you go up against what I believe is the biggest battle you have. High School football. Don Martin, to my knowledge, never raced once football started. Smart man I would say. I've been to many, I've frooze, I've been at the track at 1 AM, I always would say NEVER AGAIN. Yea right, challenger was the best.


In Topic: Lernerville Stampede Finale Results Today/Tonight: 10-15-23

17 October 2023 - 05:40 AM

Plenty of race tracks available to buy or lease to test your theory. Your theory sounds easy and practical enough, but you have to admit they are exponentially more successful in what they do than most. I just hope they appreciate what they have in Dan Bauman. What than man does to provide an exceptional racing surface is extremely rare.

 

Website says the balance of the show will be made up in early '24. They probably lost their tail on this event this year.

 

They need to do something different, starting with scheduling. Everyone knows that the weather around here begins to get sketchy at the end of September into early October. Secondly, instead of 10 divisions, why not trim it to six and run two nights? I know the obvious answer is that "practice" night is relatively easy revenue while 10 divisions equal more back gate. However, their physical fan attendance and cars per division would likely increase without holding team's hostage for Thursday.  For most fans, this event has turned into a slog nearly every year. And from the looks of the stands, fans have grown weary of it.


In Topic: Knox Raceway

22 July 2023 - 01:35 AM

 

That's right. Fans should show up, pay their money and sit there like stiffs. They should never, ever have an opinion on anything racing related. Because after all, it's social media that closes these tracks. not an owner biting off more they can chew, competition for the entertainment dollar or simple incompetency. It's the "fans" that close these tracks. Thanks for the heads up.

 

I didn't blame fans for anything, nor did I suggest that social media closed this track. Knox seemed to have great social media support and was trending in the right direction, but a calculated risk failed miserably and it sunk the ship for this season. 


In Topic: Knox Raceway

19 July 2023 - 09:13 PM

All these Keyboard GMs and Promoters that know exactly how to run a racetrack and make millions of dollars doing it, but tracks keep closing.  Doesn't make sense.