Rusty_Nuts

 

I enjoy watching each of those drivers and their ability to get a car through the corners well.  What's interesting about watching crates especially showed at Tri City last Sunday.  From the front runners to the back markers they were all the same speed down the back stretch.  It seems who wins a crate race is usually about who gets around the corner best and is the best racer.  Heck all crate racers should be able to afford an Xr1 with the money saved on engines.  Fans on this board would expect anyone who can't afford one to get out of Late Model racing.  You know if you can't afford Xr1 to race you have no business racing, but then everyone would complain about low crate car count.

 

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It still goes farther than everything being equal and being a better driver. Now you need to look at the chassis, suspension, and every other bolt on piece. Because i would guarantee they are very close to being the best, which makes them much easier to drive. Lets be real, how hard can a car be to drive that only has 400 horsepower? Racing was built on progressively increasing divisions, and hence horsepower. If you cant handle a higher division, you drop back down to less horsepower.  How is that saving the driver any money?

And no, you cant buy an XR1 with the money saved from the crate engine. Do you know what JUST those chassis cost? As a student, do your research. While you're at it, look on the classifieds. Youll find SLM engines for cheaper than you think. What is with everyone's thought process these days that you must spend $50000 on brand new engines to be competitive around here? And people wonder why racing is dying. Everyone thinks they save money by buying a $5000 crate, yet they all lose their ass at the pay window all year long and constantly getting beat by guys that still spend more money. If you come to races in a toter and stacker and havent run anything more than a crate engine, you need to move up.

Because watching Mike Pegher, Max Blair, and Russ King dominate crates with brand new Xr1's against a bunch of people that are 'low buck' is enjoyable? At least the supers go fast. I take piss breaks during the crate races and come back 1 lap later.

Yup, the hundreds of people in the stands will quit going if they don't get to see Mike Norris win 9 out of 10 combined heats and features over 8 cars every week, versus watching 24-28 weekly Crate late models instead.

Why not actually make improvements that benefit the drivers? Open tire rules. Allow the drivers to seek partnerships with tire manufacturers. Improve the racing surface for drivers. Cut admission prices for drivers. Possible increases to purses. All these things benefit drivers. Happy drivers means more drivers. More drivers means better drivers. Better drivers mean better races. Better races mean more fans. More fans mean more money. Spend money to make money. Fix some of them bleacher boards too. And change some personnel. 

Track surface can be somewhat disappointing, lacking any bite whatsoever and being very rough. But the racing can occasionally still be good and its a gorgeous facility. If this is your first trip down there, spend a lot of your time visiting the NASCAR speed shops, the NASCAR hall of fame, etc,,, if you are interested in that stuff. Dont eat at the same place twice. Is Bruton Smith Blvd the one that has the Concord Mills on it?? Its a mile from the speedway and is loaded with shopping places, restaurants, etc... Pick up the pamphlets at your hotel and rest stops to see what there is to do in the area. You can travel around all day before the races and still run out of time. You'll be planning on things to do the following year. Hope this helps!!

I was told by many drivers that the car has been in the S&S shop many many times. But still uncertain about who built it. Either way, the S&S chassis seem to be using lighter cages. Its one of the few ways they can get those cars lighter for the crate engines. However, it is very dangerous as you can see. Even by ignoring the fatal wreck this past Thursday, everyone knows how the 25 McDonald car was an S&S car and his cage collapsed badly on the passenger side on his very weak rollover. These stock cars are becoming death traps

Lmao. The Sportsman mod winner at Syracuse was DQed for an illegal engine. If its done in those mods, its done in these stock cars. Crates suck and are easy to cheat. Its pathetic

By the way Hotdog, youre a c0ck. This BS about "dont like it, race somewhere else" talk is stupid. Do you understand the history that some of those families have had at that speedway? To just pack up and leave? The tradition some of those guys have had there? Past champions and past winners to just "race somewhere else"? Travel expenses and work schedules that factor in, to now have to drive an extra hour or 2 to race and have fun for 350 bucks?? Yes, that may be exactly what they have to do. But for you to insult them the way you are just for putting up a fight and having reasons to complain about the way they are getting shafted, truly shows a lot about your classless character. This place and that division meant a lot to these drivers. 

Vince. It means the stocks will race under the typical Open Rules for the actual Stampede race that will be run saturday. Same as it has been for the last 5 years. But all they added back to the Friday night program looks to be the Crate only race which was created after they cut the original purse from $2000 to $1000 and Bob's organized event. The actual Pandemonium that was $2000 to win and then $1000 to win has not been rescheduled. SHAFTED!!

It upsets me so much to see racetracks screw drivers like this. Like the sport isnt in enough trouble already.

I am pretty confident Lernerville is still successful from a financial standpoint. I can see WRG selling the place due to the lack of income they are now making compared to the income after the initial purchase. But in my opinion, they are the ones that decreased Lernerville's value. I believe Tomson's got a great deal. They still have Don Martin's name on the title and easily have the ability to re-raise Lernerville's value and recreate the track to what made it one of the most elite dirt tracks in the history of the sport. They just need to listen to driver and fan input, and we, as fans, need to respect the new owners and give them time and room to makes the proper changes before we begin to bi7ch and ridicule them like we have become accustomed to with WRG as ownership.

Just my opinion.

They made an excellent purchase. I look forward to the improvements that they can bring to the racing community. 

It had holes because the clay was 4 inches deep and got peeled off the dirt surface. Put 100 truckloads of clay on the track like it has needed, prep it the same way, and it wont have that issue. Granted its to late to add clay now but its still the fact of the matter. A lot of drivers had issues with preparing the cars, period. Not all of the mechanical failures seemed to be based off the track preparation. Even Feders flip wasn't really the tracks fault. It could be argued it was, but also not. There were many variables throughout the night. I thought it was great night of racing all around. I would love to see the same racing the rest of the year. Hell of a lot better than watching that follow the leader bullshit on slick tracks

I don't think any drivers or fans complained about the fact of them getting the practice in. Whats upsetting is just the point that it looks like Lernerville didn't put the time in for their own drivers. The track looked incredibly slick, very rough, insanely dusty, and highly abrasive. According to facebook posts, most drivers destroyed tires during just ONE practice session. I understand Lernerville has other things to worry about and all that bullshit. But in my opinion, they did nothing for the drivers. Lernerville put no time into the track to give the racers anything of use. Only a track that cost the racers more money.

Then they robbed them at the gate for admission. Please explain why a night designed to help all racers, veteran and rookie, wealthy and poor, to get their cars tested for safety and experience purposes, needs an admission price of $20 and $30?

The whole idea just frustrates me. Its exact situations like this that reinforce why people like me couldnt continue in the sport anymore and why more and more drivers drop out. $90 to get in the pits for a group of 3. $300-400 on two rear tires. Gas to get there and fuel for the car. Could easily be over $500 total. For a practice that pays nothing? But what choice do drivers have anymore? They need to get seat time for experience and shake down their cars for safety. Might as well get as much money out of them as we can, right?

This is all just my opinion. But thanks for letting me vent.

This post cracks me up.

Don't worry. I bet Jesus forgives them of their sins every Sunday morning.

Mercer has been dusty but that's simply the surface they have. They prepare it well and it can hold moisture. That track has been putting on a great show lately. I don't mind dust in that situation. Just put on an extra pair of glasses  

Just wondering. But does anyone know if Mercer has looked into changing their track surface from that gritty dirt to anything with a clay base?

It seems like most go for the after party. Kind of sad that's how "race fans" are these days