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You know i really have nothing in this but trying to help out . But you have to thank greg for even taking back the track this year and giving some of you a place to race. i dont think greg would run it with out having ins. As for the trucks i would think that you would be thankfull for having such a nice place that you can come to and just have some fun. As far as the points they are proably just trying to get by as best they can. I wouldnt be surprised if greg is breaking even so you have to give him some credit for just giving you a place to run. As far as having some one to keep track of the points it would proably mean having to find some or pay them to do it . Thats proably why they havent. I have heard a lot of you talking about how nice and smooth the racing surface has been , and that is one thing i think you should be greatfull for. I see where some one is already trying to keep track of the points and that is a nice jester. Ever little bit helps. To me if you love the sport you should step forward and help out like injunear said one time.

Edited by skip, 19 June 2008 - 07:57 AM.

[SutterMotorSports]

Cant we at least get a reason out of the track though about not tracking points. I think its kind of like their job. imagine if eldora or lima or gas city just said ahh! forget the points we dont want to keep track. doesnt seem right.

[zeakemedia]

Danny, that was not the point system for last year. DJ, if you want the correct point system the track used last year I can bring it to the track sometime. Blake Lirette

[scottsmom]

Danny, that was not the point system for last year. DJ, if you want the correct point system the track used last year I can bring it to the track sometime.
Blake Lirette

Blake: That would be appreciated.

[zeakemedia]

I will get them to you later today.

[SutterMotorSports]

Does no one agree that its the tracks jodb to do the points. If the racers are keeping track of points then the system could be tampered with very easily. Not saying you guys are cheating but i am sure that someone would be willing to pay the people keeping track of points for a top five am i right?

[underbird fan]

AMAZING we had a couple of great people step up to the plate to keep track of the points and now someone is concerned about the points being tampered with. Easy fix, if you are so concerned with them tampering with the points. DO IT YOURSELF I'm sure they are just as busy as you are in life. Since the track isn't doing what it should be doing be happy that someone will do it.

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I would think some would just be satisfied with having a place to race local.

[underbird fan]

I would think some would just be satisfied with having a place to race local.

Skip,
Very well said.
Did the drivers complain about Allentown many years ago like they complain now days. Oh ya the didn't have racing forums to sob on back then.

[paintman]

Skip,
Very well said.
Did the drivers complain about Allentown many years ago like they complain now days. Oh ya the didn't have racing forums to sob on back then.

well i will agree some people like to complain but i never in the 25 years or so of dirt racing have seen a track without a points system i think it makes a healthier racing class and when it was no harder than asking someone and if you are worried about cheating have someone else look at them checks and balances are great . you guage your night by your finishing position in the feature and your year by your points position, racers are competitive they live for these numbers its part of it . waynesfield has a GREAT track and they prepare it very well each week and work on it thru the night to keep it a 2 groove or more track they get an A+ on both so a points system enhances that

[stif racing]

Scottsmom, I am the one that volunteered to do the mini sprint points but want to make sure I use the same formula as the others are using so when you get the formula that you are going to use could you please send it to me at bigstif@juno.com. If someone is worried about me tampering with points to get a payoff think what you want but I'm not in for the money I just know that racers want to see points. This just shows how things are in this age there is always someone that wants to find a negative. I agree the track should have a points system, they said they weren't so now the ones that want it are stepping up and doing it, it's that plane and simple.

[challenger]

I would think some would just be satisfied with having a place to race local.

I am also glad to have a local track, but if WMP closed the gates for good it would not be the end of the world. This state has plenty of race tracks to choose from, both dirt and pavement.

I see the need to track points, and I for one think it helps get sponsors, a good string of finishes does show in points, even without wins.

Again I am thankful to have a local track, but not everything can be overlooked just by saying that we should be thankful for this or that, they still take pit pass money and grandstand money just like any other track. Our money spends just as well at other tracks.

I still miss hanging out with all my buddies in the stock car class this year, should they also be thankful that the rest of us have a local track to race on and they dont? Where are the tracks they call local now? See other tracks are glad to have them.

Im glad I can get gasoline one block from my house at my local gas station, but I still dont like paying 4 dollars a gallon for less product or service. Same thing.

Not trying to make anyone mad, not my intention at all, just tired of the same old we should be glad to have a place to race line, what about us - the racers work hard all week long trying to put food on the table, buy enough gas to get to work and the track and still some how save a little more to go racing.

I dont think these folks are asking for much by wanting points tracked. Local track or not, they deserve it.

[griffithracing]

I have a date in which I could race at Waynesfield or another race in a traveling series that I'm in the points for. Now that I see w-field doesnt keep points I guess it is easier to make a choice. Now I wonder if this will happen to anyone else?

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I am also glad to have a local track, but if WMP closed the gates for good it would not be the end of the world. This state has plenty of race tracks to choose from, both dirt and pavement.

I see the need to track points, and I for one think it helps get sponsors, a good string of finishes does show in points, even without wins.

Again I am thankful to have a local track, but not everything can be overlooked just by saying that we should be thankful for this or that, they still take pit pass money and grandstand money just like any other track. Our money spends just as well at other tracks.

I still miss hanging out with all my buddies in the stock car class this year, should they also be thankful that the rest of us have a local track to race on and they dont? Where are the tracks they call local now? See other tracks are glad to have them.

Im glad I can get gasoline one block from my house at my local gas station, but I still dont like paying 4 dollars a gallon for less product or service. Same thing.

Not trying to make anyone mad, not my intention at all, just tired of the same old we should be glad to have a place to race line, what about us - the racers work hard all week long trying to put food on the table, buy enough gas to get to work and the track and still some how save a little more to go racing.

I dont think these folks are asking for much by wanting points tracked. Local track or not, they deserve it.

I dont want to make any one else mad either, but i would bet Greg is digging into his pocket deep every week just so this track can be open this year. You say there are other tracks, But how many run this type of truck , Plus a lot of the truck racers are local. There are a lot a other tracks that run on a sat night, and for waynesfield it is hard to get going and compete with some of the others that have been around for a while. I have nothing in it but being a fan and trying to help, I have seen some tracks from years ago that would make you sick to even say it is a race track. Its you fellows call, if you want to throw away a place that is trying to give you a place to race your trucks, so be it . Im just some one who is giving up my spare time to try and help them make a go of it.

[SutterMotorSports]

I think its great these people want to keep track of points but its not their jobs. I think that letting them is settleing for less. letting the track be right when it is wrong not to keep track of points. whats next we voulenteer to work the track in

[challenger]

I dont want to make any one else mad either, but i would bet Greg is digging into his pocket deep every week just so this track can be open this year. You say there are other tracks, But how many run this type of truck , Plus a lot of the truck racers are local. There are a lot a other tracks that run on a sat night, and for waynesfield it is hard to get going and compete with some of the others that have been around for a while. I have nothing in it but being a fan and trying to help, I have seen some tracks from years ago that would make you sick to even say it is a race track. Its you fellows call, if you want to throw away a place that is trying to give you a place to race your trucks, so be it . Im just some one who is giving up my spare time to try and help them make a go of it.

Point taken, but we are also digging in our pockets very very deep. As far as making a go of it, they had a great thing going last year with all the sprinters coming from Indiana, it was on the verg of something very big. Heck if you went to Gas City on Friday nights lots of fans and racers would be talking about WMP. It was a unigue idea to run Saturday non wing sprints in Ohio.

I agree with one of the other posts above, it would be cheating ourselves to track points, that is the tracks responsibility.

Also understand your point about the truck series its a very unfortunate deal, but lets say just for example the track decides to do away with that class like they did with the stock car class, then what do these folks do?
I doubt that would ever happen, but I also never thought that would happen to the stock cars either.

It would be great if these hard working truck racers and crews could find another track that would support them so at least they would have a chioce and could run a championship.
They deserve it !!! All the classes do !!!

[scottsmom]

1= 75 2= 70 3= 65 4= 62 5= 59 6= 56 7= 53 8= 50 9= 47 10= 44 11= 42 12= 40 13= 38 14= 36 15= 34 16= 32 17= 30 18= 28 19= 26 20= 24 Stifracing: This is the method I used to figure the points for the trucks. I only figured points for the feature positions. I didn't add any bonus points, or anything for heat or b-main positions. I already had the positions on a spreadsheet, but I went back through the posts on racestud and printed off the results of all the features and double checked what I already had. That was a good decision because I did find one mistake on my spreadsheet. Let me know if I can help. I spoke with Blake via email. He gave me another method, which is fairly similar to this one, and said the points for all classes are figured with the same method. I plan to have the spreadsheet with me at the track. If anyone wants to review it, I sit in the first section of the grandstand........right behind the big banner for JD&D Racing.

Edited by scottsmom, 20 June 2008 - 09:14 AM.

[stif racing]

Using the same points system that the trucks used the following would be the up to date points for the mini sprints. The first week they list only to 10 places but I believe that is correct because the 10th place car was leading with just 2 laps to go and blew a motor. The Shhotout race is not included in these points because I don't think you can officially use that race for points being it was a 600 vs 1000 race. if you want the numbers e-mailed to you let me know at bigstif@juno.com and I'll send you the spreadsheet. Here are points given for place finished: 1-75 2-70 3-65 4-62 5-59 6-56 7-53 8-50 9-47 10-44 11-42 12-40 13-38 14-36 15-34 16-32 17-30 18-28 19-26 20-24 Here is the points standings as of today: 1- Devon Dobie 2-Todd Keen 3-Justin Havens 4-Jared Horstman 5- Herschel Wills 6-Jamie Paul 7-Tyler Hesson 8-Lee Underwood 9-Shawn Lewis 10-Justin Meyers 11- Kevin Wills 12-Beau Stewart 13- Becca Stiefel 14-Max Stambaugh 15-Gary Loney 16-Jim Peterman 17-Sam S. 18- Rod Henning 18- Todd Wills 19- Shane Hayslett 20- Josh Spradling 21- Mikey Helterbran 22- Liz Helterbran 23- Jerrod Delong

[OGRE]

That's fine because it was confusing anyway. I know it awarded the people that finished in the top ten greater than those out of the top ten. I know the toip 3 to 5 got more points than those 4-10.

Anyway what did it matter they didn't mean anything last year. I agree with several points on here.

#1 Points are nice for sponsors feedback.

#2 Greg Shobe is an awesome guy for dojng what he is doing this year as it would've been so easy for him to fold the track this year until a longer lease could be signed.

Kudos to Greg and Family!!!

Blake....are you still around this season or not?

Danny, that was not the point system for last year. DJ, if you want the correct point system the track used last year I can bring it to the track sometime.
Blake Lirette

[SVT]

If you want points we can post points. Mrs. Shobe will gitter done. The track has a phone 419 568 3201. If you have questions and want a straight up answer call. Criticizing accusations quickly tear done what takes a long time to build. greg