so wouldn't several rounds of disc-ing the track make it all knit together. Say if you disc the track, keep it open, and put clay on top and then disc it again. Hell maybe they plan on taking a garden rototiller over the whole place. I am by no means a "dirt engineer" but i figure will there's a will there's a way.
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Started by Bo99, Feb 12 2016 11:00 AM
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#61
Posted 30 March 2016 - 07:12 AM
#62
Posted 30 March 2016 - 07:31 AM
To answer your question in short, yes if you break up the existing surface and mix the new clay in, it will bond together. If it doesn't have a couple months to resettle, it will be right back to racing in the corn field. As mentioned above, any time we disc the fields, its done with ample time to resettle. To get enough bond to hold, I would see no less than a foot of the old surface needing broken down, so the additional clay has something to bond too. Rolling the new clay will not compact the entire "new mix" together.
In my opinion, the least that should have been in place last fall is a good disc-ing of the turns to break it up.
#63
Posted 30 March 2016 - 10:23 AM
Thanks Tunacan. You get it .....Guys that work these speedways have Soooooooooooo many factors they need to deal with. Most think just add water and stir. It is much more complicated than that...
#64
Posted 30 March 2016 - 01:16 PM
Then Lernerville's new clay will fall apart too?
#65
Posted 30 March 2016 - 02:48 PM
I was thinking of driving there to check it out. Does anyone have a number for the amount of cars and karts? It's a long drive for me. Has anyone on that doesn't have a car or a close relative or friends car there, who is a fan, been there?
#66
Posted 30 March 2016 - 06:36 PM
I was thinking of driving there to check it out. Does anyone have a number for the amount of cars and karts? It's a long drive for me. Has anyone on that doesn't have a car or a close relative or friends car there, who is a fan, been there?
i seen 18 cars total on facebook
#67
Posted 03 April 2016 - 12:29 PM
Dont worry about the new clay . The the track was dug down to the base with the clay relayed aprox. 12 to18 inches in layers and compacted each layer,This was done by an experenced co. DONT WORRY the surface will be very good.
Edited by TOPGUNRACER, 03 April 2016 - 05:52 PM.
#68
Posted 03 April 2016 - 02:14 PM
Listen to you. You talk like a pro and that you have knowledge but you can't even spell SERFACE right. Another Meth Mountain cheerleader.
#69
Posted 03 April 2016 - 04:28 PM
We dont need you to come to Thunder Mountain there will be GREAT racing with out you.
Edited by TOPGUNRACER, 03 April 2016 - 05:53 PM.
#70
Posted 03 April 2016 - 05:49 PM
Hahaha. He said RACEING. If your not the promoter for Meth Mountain your missing a great opportunity
#71
Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:32 PM
Hahaha. He said RACEING. If your not the promoter for Meth Mountain your missing a great opportunity
You're....twice. You fail at being grammar nazi.
#72
Posted 03 April 2016 - 06:33 PM
Hahaha. He said RACEING. If your not the promoter for Meth Mountain your missing a great opportunity
Classic. Two misspelling in the same sentence, in a post laughing at someone else's misspellings. Here's your sign.
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#73
Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:34 PM
Experienced co. LMAO. You attempt to give some insight on how things work in the real world and individuals print nonsense. The experienced Co doing the work must have ALL the answers over all the other tracks that put new clay down in the fall. Scab companies that work for money that barely pays fuel and maintenance. There everywhere. I'm pretty sure that anyone that is a knowledgeable individual would have said the same. RIGHT.
If, according to all the people that go to the speedway. It was all ROCK AND COAL. So you till it, 12" according to some. You just don't dump new clay on top. It needs to be amended into the base that you have. All those rocks and coal are going to come right back to the top of the surface.
And by the way. You need to go deeper than 12". The frost line is lower than that. So, it hasn't amended to squat.
If, according to all the people that go to the speedway. It was all ROCK AND COAL. So you till it, 12" according to some. You just don't dump new clay on top. It needs to be amended into the base that you have. All those rocks and coal are going to come right back to the top of the surface.
And by the way. You need to go deeper than 12". The frost line is lower than that. So, it hasn't amended to squat.
#74
Posted 03 April 2016 - 07:35 PM
Looks like they will have a full field on Hooked on Phonics Friday's.
#75
Posted 03 April 2016 - 09:08 PM
Looks like they will have a full field on Hooked on Phonics Friday's.
In what looks like another attempt to downgrade someone else's intelligence, you've made another, very basic error. You should stop.
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#76
Posted 03 April 2016 - 09:17 PM
I watched years of racing on Sharon's dirt half mile. I know it was not tilled in and mixed with the asphalt surface still there in the old turns three and four. Why did it work for them to layer dirt on top of asphalt? I remember them always working the track from top down to get it ready again for racing after a rain came through. I understands it was done from top down so water could be worked out down the asphalt slope under the track. I guess they had a lot more dirt on it then what's being talked about on here.
Dirt or no dirt, it's a great track to watch a race and I hope they do well.
#77
Posted 04 April 2016 - 07:07 AM
From the pictures I saw recently, it looks like they have some nice equipment there to work with, and adding more than enough clay down. They have a pretty nice compactor there as well, definitely doesn't look like a half assed attempt.
#78
Posted 04 April 2016 - 10:47 AM
I watched years of racing on Sharon's dirt half mile. I know it was not tilled in and mixed with the asphalt surface still there in the old turns three and four. Why did it work for them to layer dirt on top of asphalt? I remember them always working the track from top down to get it ready again for racing after a rain came through. I understands it was done from top down so water could be worked out down the asphalt slope under the track. I guess they had a lot more dirt on it then what's being talked about on here.
Dirt or no dirt, it's a great track to watch a race and I hope they do well.
Fulton up in New York is just dirt on top of asphalt too. The surface there is great.
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#79
Posted 04 April 2016 - 11:48 AM
Fulton up in New York is just dirt on top of asphalt too. The surface there is great.
Hasn't Albany-Saratoga switched back and forth a couple of times over the years?
#80
Posted 04 April 2016 - 05:24 PM
Hasn't Albany-Saratoga switched back and forth a couple of times over the years?
Yep. Its currently dirt laid on top of asphalt. Never heard a complaint about the surface. Now that I think about it, Utica Rome is also dirt on top of tar. That one has a tendency to get insanely slick.
Edited by BaconBits, 04 April 2016 - 05:25 PM.
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