dirtstudent2

Old man and we were super low budget all the time and could not afford to race anything RUSH.

Cars were built out of swap meet parts engines and chassis and payouts use to get you to the track and in the door for another race.

Got into car racing via sweat equity and low low money available >>>giving payout and tow money to our car owner<<< and I got second car to the track and in the door 3 nights a week.

But bought a LOT of nuts and bolts etc..

2nd year with the car owner/driver of the better car who was on disability I learned he made $32,000 that year in 2003.

He did tell me years later that when we were with him he always had a buck in his pocket.

just as an example:  Lernerville for us went from Outlaw Show guaranteed $260 a car plus our throw away tire supply for the year or until the next Outlaw Show, drivers getting fed well and if you need anything just ask, to when the WoO took over we no longer could afford to race there.

I appreciate watching the RUSH racers but RUSH is just too damn expensive to be called any kind of starter or cheap class.

There in it for the buck and getting IMHO at least $1000 or probably more out of each car each year.

They stole or cut into a nitch of racing taking low funded better racers and high funded entry level racers and bastardized a lot of classes with the stocks at Lernerville being a prime example.

I think their business goal is not to support but to push out an many established classes as possible to gain a no cost to them place for their customers to race.  Never forget their customers are not us fans in the stand their customers are racers and tracks.

... low budget racers still exist but sadly the 3 night a week B mains with 24 cars being paid for the feature does not.

Car owner and us raced sprints because if your going to race win or loose "shouldn't you race the fast stuff" because racing is to see whose fastest?

And because of tow money, payout and if you know swap meet parts pricing to build cars and engines, sprints were the cheapest thing to race.

Thanks to speck racing, mandated bullshit by promoters to get into the racers pocket, caring about the back gate more than the front for the fans and bitching by a few racers bringing down the number of car feature payout from 24 to 20 eliminating any payout for 4 cars:  YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE

Let the attacks begin along with the why and reasoning of it so I can learn something

First off Merry Christmas that and your belief in God is all that really matters anyway.

... have fun:

Understanding stagger:
1. Yes a bigger RR tire in general allows you to roll around a turn faster.
2. Because speeds in the turn vary and the amount of turning you do at the ends of the track varies the weight on each rear tire must be adjusted while on the track either manually or dynamically via the chassis to tune available grip at each rear tire.
3. The only constant you have between the two rear tires is the difference in surface speeds of each rear tire.
4. Rotation help from your staggered sloid axle is about the difference in grip available between each rear tire and the track because of the difference in surface speed of each rear tire, the tires ability to grip and how and where weight is directed to and from a tire.

If your going to understand LTO's you need to understand the above over solid axles and just unloading the inside rear tire to efficiently go thru a turn which is also part of LTO.

The difference between LTO LR unloading and non staggered solid axle racing is though both will unload the LR, solid axle racers without stagger must unload the inside rear to be efficient and LTO racers with stagger and solid axle can use load on the LR to increase efficiency.

Beyond the above it's all about how much available grip you have verses your available hp and when and where you need to use grip.
Most if not all on track setup problems are the result of trying to apply grip where needed without causing a conflict for control of direction between tires.

The closer you can get to having all four tires wanting to roll in the direction the driver needs to go at the limit of available grip, will let you use the most available hp and maintain the most available speed.

Increase conflict for control of direction between any two tires and you will go slower.
... lastly grip must be available 'before' weight or hp is applied to any tire for it to be used in any way.
... last lastly weight to or from a tire depending on need and track conditions is either banged into or away from the track or it is eased into or away from the track.

https://www.goodsrac...ides-no-points/

So friggin confusing.  

Figured out no Trucks because of hurricane.

Website says no racing.

First thought facebook said 410'sf

Then think I read motor cycle racing on infield?

When and what is racing at Tri City would like to see 410's or even go watch cycles???  but what's going on there if anything?

Guess I'll just go to Goods for their fun show if no info.  help?

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nevermind found this guess i'll go watch at Goods

Is Eriez Speedway Closed for the season ?