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[Express Man]

All Correct....I agree 4 classes at the most! I think the no sanction crates is so they all can race! Marion Center had a great year for car counts! Usually had a full field of lates every week! But I think it was more because of limitted options for racers than anything else! When other tracks enter back into the arena....we will see what happens! And thats not a Slam to Marion center! Great little speedway....if you are a small track guy! Dog Hollow fought an uphill battle for fans from the start! They had to make thier money with backgate....and when Amp opened back up and took away the northern cars...It killed them! Thunder Valley also fought an uphill battle with Fans! And when the Promotor moved on to bigger and better things they closed! Ebensburg has a perfect location! With main highways leading from all directions! Part of what the problem for these other tracks is! Poor Location! Location is everything in business! There is a real opertunity here for this track! Its the right time and the right location! And the right Void to be filled! Like I said...keep it simple! Sunday night racing four divisions at the most! Get it over by 10 PM! And don't try to start too early and have DUST problems! Remember Mr. promotor....That is what Killed this place off the last time! And be Fan and Racer friendly! You need the support of everyone! See you all at the races!

[Blemon]

What a lot of people on here are not thinking about is the people involved in reopening this track have to do so while dealing with conditions set to them by the county and the borough. For example the Borough has set a time that they want all racing to be over by. So that has to determine the start time for heats. As for the classes I am sure they have considered all options and they have decided what they feel will be the best not just for a show but for the track its self such as pay outs and track prep. I'm not saying I agree with everything they have decided on but they are doing their best to get a track reopened in a area a lot of tracks are failing. Personally I salute them for taking it on and giving fans as well as drivers a place to go. Bottom line is nobody can make everyone happy. Someone is going to complain no matter what they do. They race Crates the Steal Block guys complain. They race Steal Block the Crate guys complain. There is no possible way to make everyone happy its just how life is. As for the Crate rules, I am NOT involved with the track in any way but what I have been told is the Crates will run according to FasTrak rules but with a open tire modification. Not sectioned by FasTrak, Its not going to be a ruleless class with a anything goes attitude. Again this is just what I have been told.

[race ace]

I am glad that Ebensburg is opening up because i loved the place before, but exactly whose purestock rules are they going to run marion center with their 350 block anything goes rule or a.m.p 358 cubic inch triple disc clutch set up and headers allowed or hummingbird speedway rules and i don't know what they are but know you need to run exhaust manifolds . good luck with your classes but the first person in town that bitches about noise or dust and there it goes for another 18 years .they fu%$ed alby laminica after he put all his money in the place .

[CHEVY1A]

I am glad that Ebensburg is opening up because i loved the place before, but exactly whose purestock rules are they going to run marion center with their 350 block anything goes rule or a.m.p 358 cubic inch triple disc clutch set up and headers allowed or hummingbird speedway rules and i don't know what they are but know you need to run exhaust manifolds . good luck with your classes but the first person in town that bitches about noise or dust and there it goes for another 18 years .they fu%$ed alby laminica after he put all his money in the place .

Hopefully the Bedford pure stock rules.

[BlacksheepX4]

I doubt it on Bedford pure stock rules.. I dont see them going with rules that only 1 track in the area has as appose to rules that all other tracks in the area run. Their best bet would be to go with Hesston style rules that go by weight class. That way you can somewhat keep it equal and draw from as many tracks as possible.

[K.H.]

I doubt it on Bedford pure stock rules.. I dont see them going with rules that only 1 track in the area has as appose to rules that all other tracks in the area run. Their best bet would be to go with Hesston style rules that go by weight class. That way you can somewhat keep it equal and draw from as many tracks as possible.

Do they have scales?

[gofast05]

I am glad that Ebensburg is opening up because i loved the place before, but exactly whose purestock rules are they going to run marion center with their 350 block anything goes rule or a.m.p 358 cubic inch triple disc clutch set up and headers allowed or hummingbird speedway rules and i don't know what they are but know you need to run exhaust manifolds . good luck with your classes but the first person in town that bitches about noise or dust and there it goes for another 18 years .they fu%$ed alby laminica after he put all his money in the place .

i don't see why all 4 tracks don't adopt the same Rules package for both Pure stock, AND street stock. the semi lates are still growing, i don't expect anyone to pick those up aside from amp for a couple years. late models are late models, fwd's are fwd's.

if these tracks would all come to an agreement over rules for pures, and streets, it would be more beneficial to everyone.

[racer777]

i don't see why all 4 tracks don't adopt the same Rules package for both Pure stock, AND street stock. the semi lates are still growing, i don't expect anyone to pick those up aside from amp for a couple years. late models are late models, fwd's are fwd's.

if these tracks would all come to an agreement over rules for pures, and streets, it would be more beneficial to everyone.

Bingo ! Finally some common sense. No one wants to change half of their car just to run at another track.jeep the rules the same . Make it easier on the racers and you'll get more cars.

[race ace]

Bingo ! Finally some common sense. No one wants to change half of their car just to run at another track.jeep the rules the same . Make it easier on the racers and you'll get more cars.

i agree with both of these last posts.we need more guys like you at the rules meeting or adopt the little guys natonals rules package or the hesston rules .

[dobie25fan]

Express man loves those exclamation points, no?

[racer777]

i agree with both of these last posts.we need more guys like you at the rules meeting or adopt the little guys natonals rules package or the hesston rules .

Problem is no track wants to listen.they want their own rules. To keep "their" cars at their track.its simple minded thinking. Racers don't have the time and money to change tires,carbs,headers , and so on just to run Fri somewhere and Saturday somewhere else or just to have fun and not point chase and try a different track one week.

[gofast05]

i agree with both of these last posts.we need more guys like you at the rules meeting or adopt the little guys natonals rules package or the hesston rules .

i would gladfully attend any rules meeting, only problem i have is i don't race, can't afford it so it would make no sense for myself to even bother. noone would listen to a guy who doesn't race at a rules meeting about different classes.

[Express Man]

When is the website going to be up?

[Skull]

you've been" round here "long enough you have been afflicted with that westen pa. mindset.... why not 7 8 9 classes.... keep the people hostage till sometime monday....
i would pay "good money" to watch a 3 class show {two would be better} any night , but especially on a sunday
your definition of "entertainment" differs greatly from mine
and, "value" for my money is NOT watching 3. 4. 5 & more support classes

This is THE one FAN that gets IT better than most on this board. Always has for the ten plus years I've been here.

[gofast05]

you've been" round here "long enough you have been afflicted with that westen pa. mindset.... why not 7 8 9 classes.... keep the people hostage till sometime monday....
i would pay "good money" to watch a 3 class show {two would be better} any night , but especially on a sunday
your definition of "entertainment" differs greatly from mine
and, "value" for my money is NOT watching 3. 4. 5 & more support classes

what is everyones definition of a "support" class? i know the typical answer would be fwd's, pures, sometimes streets. i was at hummingbird almost all season this year, and honestly, every single class at that track produced some absolutely great racing. I personally wouldn't consider any of those classes, this year at least, "support" classes. i know "support" classes are in place just to give people something else to watch, or a break in between the big shows, or things of that nature. But if the "support" class is producing some great side by side racing and photo finishes almost every night, i would hardly classify them as a "support" class. just my opinion, not lashing out at The Fan or anyone else, but thats been bothering me all year.

Edited by gofast05, 16 November 2013 - 10:43 AM.

[Walt Wimer]

I think the definition of a "support class" has a lot to do with what track it the class is running at. For example, steel block Late Models are a support class at Marion Center, but the top class at Hummingbird, not too far away. No question the top three classes are Sprint Cars, "super" Late Models and big block Modifieds. However, nowadays we have quite a few track running without those classes such as Hummingbird, Raceway 7 and Lake Erie for three. Most of the support classes put on some great racing and due to the high purses needed for the top three classes, some tracks just can't afford them and keep the gates open. I would much rather see a track running "support" classes only than sitting dark!!! If the sport doesn't find more ways to cut the costs of racing, all weekly tracks might just be racing "support" classes someday!! GOOD RACING TO ALL Walt

[gofast05]

I think the definition of a "support class" has a lot to do with what track it the class is running at. For example, steel block Late Models are a support class at Marion Center, but the top class at Hummingbird, not too far away. No question the top three classes are Sprint Cars, "super" Late Models and big block Modifieds. However, nowadays we have quite a few track running without those classes such as Hummingbird, Raceway 7 and Lake Erie for three. Most of the support classes put on some great racing and due to the high purses needed for the top three classes, some tracks just can't afford them and keep the gates open. I would much rather see a track running "support" classes only than sitting dark!!! If the sport doesn't find more ways to cut the costs of racing, all weekly tracks might just be racing "support" classes someday!!

GOOD RACING TO ALL

Walt

thats a good description Walt. although i am still a firm believer in the quality of the racing defining whether its a support class or a headliner, i totally agree, sprints, supers, and big block mods are the top 3 classes on dirt. I am also a firm believer in the little guys, like the pures, fwd's and the streets. those guys put just as much work into their cars and their program as the guys who run supers etc. and they do it for much less money. Why? Because the Love of racing is still engraved into those guys and girls. not saying at all that the sprints, supers, and big blocks don't have that love, but they've moved into another class of driver, one who likes the big pay-day. and i don't blame them at all for wanting more money. and i'm also not saying the little guys don't enjoy making some extra bucks. but there are guys that put as much effort, time and money into their "support" cars as some of the guys in the headliner classes. and in my opinion, they produce better racing because they're more worried about making it to the next show. of course you have your guys that drive like idiots. every class does haha.

[K.H.]

When is the website going to be up?

When is the website going to be up?

[Express Man]

Whats going guys??? Better Make some anouncements soon! Lots of peoiple I know are starting to question this deal! Sure don't want anything negative out there.

[K.H.]

What's the status on the clay?