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[Vigoda Motorsports]

Sure the late model pay-outs are not phenomenal, that doesn't
mean the racing won't be. I don't have to see the big money teams to enjoy a good race, it might even be better if the high dollar cars stick to the high dollar racetracks
and the local limited budget racers put on their own show.

Sure. It seems like from the beginning this was done by a pure stock guy with a little backing behind him to give somewhere for the local Indiana and Cambria Co support class guys somewhere local to race. I'm sure growing the Super Late class to compete with Lernerville isn't going to be a huge priority. So, despite the huge build up that they presented, it is what it is. Best of luck to them.

Edited by Vigoda Motorsports, 01 February 2014 - 11:51 AM.

[the punisher]

You might as well add micro sprints and just run steel block lates and have a series with hummingbird

[The Legend]

You might as well add micro sprints and just run steel block lates and have a series with hummingbird

May as well add rush mods , emods and mod lights and have sun honey man the smode booth ...

[Tiny Tim]

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Edited by Tiny Tim, 01 February 2014 - 03:30 PM.

[ryanezek36]

I do belove if the track is prepped right it will be ok you cant show up on Friday at 5 put water on and by 7 say ok lets go racing .That's all he did and it showed but it will also to be hard to get lates with a 800 pay out

We are putting new clay down and the payouts are higher. Look at www.doghollowspeedway.net

[K.H.]

We are putting new clay down and the payouts are higher. Look at www.doghollowspeedway.net

Latemodel and Crate payouts are lower.

[T-440]

Everyone interprets stuff differently. I also didn't see anything offensive in the original post. It is all in how you interpret stuff. Good luck with the re-opening of Dog Hollow!

[The Legend]

Everyone interprets stuff differently. I also didn't see anything offensive in the original post. It is all in how you interpret stuff.

Good luck with the re-opening of Dog Hollow!

You people are incredible ....

[T-440]

You people are incredible ....

Knowing the fact that Hesston is up for sale/lease, I interpreted the post to mean that Hesston was considered an option for the group looking to open a speedway, and Hesston wasn't chosen. Others read more into it, and came to a different conclusion.

Would I have announced the opening in that manner? No. But, at the same time I didn't interpret it as a personal attack against anyone.

[Racefan68x]

Knowing the fact that Hesston is up for sale/lease, I interpreted the post to mean that Hesston was considered an option for the group looking to open a speedway, and Hesston wasn't chosen. Others read more into it, and came to a different conclusion.

Would I have announced the opening in that manner? No. But, at the same time I didn't interpret it as a personal attack against anyone.

t, if they want the press release done the right way they should of hired you! it would of been handled the right way then.

[T-440]

t, if they want the press release done the right way they should of hired you! it would of been handled the right way then.

Might not have been any better, but it certainly would have been less controversial....

[T-440]

t, if they want the press release done the right way they should of hired you! it would of been handled the right way then.

double post.....

Edited by T-440, 01 February 2014 - 10:52 PM.

[Express Man]

Where is the secret location to find the payouts and rules?

[The Legend]

Where is the secret location to find the payouts and rules?

Www.doghollowspeedway.net Save yourself the frustration it's not a third what you seem to think it should be ... But
Seems par for the course at tracks like that

[Express Man]

Www.doghollowspeedway.net Save yourself the frustration it's not a third what you seem to think it should be ... But
Seems par for the course at tracks like that

I think a good startout payout would be like $1,000.00 to win $200.00 for tenth and $100.00 to start That would be for like less than 15 cars! Moore than 15 cars should be like $1200.00 to win.....$250.00 for 10th and $150.00 to start! The payout they are showing may not even attract the "Cast Iron Cowboys" Or the 0 Hero's! Hey....its America! You can't tell someone how to run thier business......even if they are going to ruin it before they start! I'll bet the Legend has about 100k in his new ride! Would you be willing to run for a purse like that??? But if you have a 95 Bullitt car with a 406 cast iron Cowboy under the hood sporting a set of 23 degree heads...... you would be counting the days till that payday! Ready to make the hometown crowd proud! Maybe the light will go off in someones head before the season actually begins! But its doubtful....knowing that these are guys with street stock mentality! You aren't getting any quality cars for thier current payout! But still wish them the best of luck!

[The Legend]

I think a good startout payout would be like $1,000.00 to win $200.00 for tenth and $100.00 to start That would be for like less than 15 cars! Moore than 15 cars should be like $1200.00 to win.....$250.00 for 10th and $150.00 to start! The payout they are showing may not even attract the "Cast Iron Cowboys" Or the 0 Hero's! Hey....its America! You can't tell someone how to run thier business......even if they are going to ruin it before they start! I'll bet the Legend has about 100k in his new ride! Would you be willing to run for a purse like that??? But if you have a 95 Bullitt car with a 406 cast iron Cowboy under the hood sporting a set of 23 degree heads...... you would be counting the days till that payday! Ready to make the hometown crowd proud! Maybe the light will go off in someones head before the season actually begins! But its doubtful....knowing that these are guys with street stock mentality! You aren't getting any quality cars for thier current payout! But still wish them the best of luck!

You would think that paying more leads to receiving more but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Look at the payouts Mckean county offered this year and look at the car counts. And I can tell you from a business owner standpoint the more I pay guys the less hours they choose to work !! And this isn't a limited one time event I have had the same experiance with a couple hundred different workers over the years .. You have to remember dog hollow went out of business once already due to losing money every week. They would have to be insane to bring the track back online with Mckean type payouts after seeing how it didnt get many cars for Mckean .

[Ring Gear]

You would think that paying more leads to receiving more but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Look at the payouts Mckean county offered this year and look at the car counts. And I can tell you from a business owner standpoint the more I pay guys the less hours they choose to work !! And this isn't a limited one time event I have had the same experiance with a couple hundred different workers over the years .. You have to remember dog hollow went out of business once already due to losing money every week. They would have to be insane to bring the track back online with Mckean type payouts after seeing how it didnt get many cars for Mckean .

The legend is right, I have been around racing for more years then I would like to remember and more money has been proven NOT to work.

The "pay more money" and "they will come" theory just does not work.

I have my ideas on increasing the fan base at tracks, but increasing car counts kind of has me puzzled, but I am sure the saturation of too many race tracks might have something to do with it.

I can remember the late 60's, 70's etc. how great the car counts were and how packed the stands were for weekly racing. There were just not that many race tracks competing for cars and fans.

Then along came the "Special".

I can remember the old Schmuckers [ Latrobe ] speedway that started to have Wednesday nite specials for Late Models pay $ 1,000 to win. Car counts were very good and same for the fans.

Then it just seemed to start escalating from there.

The thought of building a race track entered into a lot of minds for a sure fire way to get rich. Eventually every county had a race track or two.

It is just common sense.. The more tracks, the less cars and less people to go around. Until the number of race tracks dwindle, car counts and fans will not pick up.

That is the reason I never feel bad when a race track closes. I'm selfish... I want to go back to the old days of huge car counts, trying to find a seat in the stands, packed parking lots and that is never going to happen until there are fewer race tracks.

Again this is just my honest opinion and always welcome criticism or alternatives to my honest opinions.

[K.H.]

We are putting new clay down and the payouts are higher. Look at www.doghollowspeedway.net

The "Super Latemodel " heat race video on the website is a Crate Latemodel race.

[Walt Wimer]

Race tracks are just like gas stations, fast food joints, motels and a lot of other businesses!! They get overbuilt and then no one makes the profit they used to. Then the weaker ones begin to close!! Such is just a fact of most any business in this world, and I doubt it will ever change!! Here in Butler they are building three new hotels/motels. And that is in addition to four national chain motels already here. No way they are ever going to fill them up on a regular basis in a town the size of Butler! Some will end up closing!! Walt

[K.H.]

The "Super Latemodel " heat race video on the website is a Crate Latemodel race.

7 to 10 year olds pay $8.00 to get into grandstands, but get into pits free!