If rush and fastrak get on board with it then you know that they want to help the racers. If this happens it will make tires more affordable for the teams because more options will drop prices. This is a program to help crate racing in general not a series to destroy it. Now its up to the series to accept the program and not let hoosier monopolize the tire sales. But that money that Hoosier puts out may be enough to not accept it and thats the problem this program may face. I would bet that the American racers are less expensive also.
Lias Tire AND American Racer announce the creation of the CARS (Crate American Racer Series) for 2015!
Started by Lias Tire Speed, Nov 24 2014 03:34 PM
81 replies to this topic
#22
Posted 25 November 2014 - 10:15 AM
If this becomes a series make the needed changes.
To just add another series with the same rules makes no sense at all.
To have a new rules package series would be a good move.
AR tires -98 Octane fuel, spec shock.........
That would be the only reason to start a new series.
On the other hand if it's not a series just a way to sell tires and pay out some money, GREAT!.
To just add another series with the same rules makes no sense at all.
To have a new rules package series would be a good move.
AR tires -98 Octane fuel, spec shock.........
That would be the only reason to start a new series.
On the other hand if it's not a series just a way to sell tires and pay out some money, GREAT!.
#23
Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:20 PM
What is the price of the CARS tire?
#24
Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:59 PM
The tires will retail for $150.00 per tire.
#25
Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:10 PM
How is this even possible ? RUSH & Fastrack are both HOOSIER ONLY ....... You can't race at a sanctioned track with the wrong tires .... As per the rules ....
#27
Posted 25 November 2014 - 04:13 PM
Dog Hollow signed!Actually, you are wrong about 2 of the tracks: PPMS and McKean are Rush sanctioned. Also, Dog Hollow will be Rush sanctioned next year most likely(they had a rules meeting there last Sunday afternoon).
Also, Eriez is Fastrak sanctioned.
So, that's 4 of your 8 tracks out the window already.
(TEAM 14g/CAMPING-Paul Duratz)
#28
Posted 25 November 2014 - 04:59 PM
Honestly at this point tire company's should stop sponsoring series and sell the tires cheaper. Tire company's paying point funds is reverse socialism . Charge more for tires for everyone to give that money to the well funded team that wins the points ... Never made sense to me
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#29
Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:07 PM
The tire price is roughly the same as a Hoosier crate tire. While the deal may put some bucks in a few guys pockets it only promotes unsanctioned crate racing at tracks that do little if any tech. These tracks ride off the backs of Fastrak or RUSH as far as rules and engine seals go. Without at least the threat of being pulled down and the consequences that come with being illegal its pretty much run what ya brung. I heard that was pretty much the deal at Dog Hollow and Marion Center last year anyway.
#30
Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:33 PM
To address the issues of tech in relation to the CARS program we will have a rule book and tech inspectors that will travel from track to track and do random teching throughout the season.
#31
Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:41 PM
raceway 7 ran all three last year, but most ran ar's. they wore great, and fired till cords showed. I was impressed how good they were. this helps us at my home track. no traveling, just race. we still get teched, but just show up from night to night. I like sanctions too, so we will see where this goes....
#32
Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:30 PM
As will Marion Center.
#33
Posted 29 November 2014 - 08:18 AM
If you are willing to give up 20k of net profit to sell tires at 3 tracks there is clearly an astronomical mark up on said tires ...
#34
Posted 29 November 2014 - 08:42 AM
It is all about tire sales. Last years open tire rule was great for the racers, but not for tire sales. This year you cannot use your left over tires from last year, but instead have to spend $150 per tire for 6 or 7 tires and hope to pick up some point money at the end of the season.
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#35
Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:02 AM
I think this is a great thing they are doing, Keeping everything local. If it wasn't for Lias and those guys coming up with this, There will probably will be no crates series at these local tracks. Fasttrak and Rush just want to see how much money they can suck out from the local racers. Those series have one thing in mind, how much money can they benefit from it.
#36
Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:01 AM
Race crazy let me get this straight , you want someone to spend hundreds of hours organizing , obtaining sponsors , hiring staff , paying staff , tech inspecting etc etc for nothing ???? And they aren't doing it free , they are doing it in exchange for people buying their tires that aren't currently. I never realized there was such an enormous mark up on tires but now a lot of things make more sense .....
#37
Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:15 AM
Bet it makes you think about changing professions....
#38
Posted 01 December 2014 - 11:02 AM
Actually it sounds about where I'm at on exotic custom decks. I was never interested in selling something made in a factory I didnt own ...
#39
Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:36 PM
I would love to hear the explanation of how these series suck the money out of us local racers. Please do tell.......
#40
Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:52 PM
And just how many $1,200-$1,500 to win races would there be for the crate engine cars if it wasn't for FASTRAK & RUSH?? The traditional Limited Late Model classes had very few $1,000 win races before the series came along!! And if FASTRAK had not come to the area in 2005, would we even have crate engine racing?? Ditto the UEMS for the E-Mods and the BRP for the big blocks. Granted the various series usually ups the "cost" of racing but I would think that is more than off-set by the purses the bigger races offer.
Walt
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