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[BRC27]

Also if you think the VSI guys are the only ones you'd be getting rid of with your new set of rules you're sadly mistaken.  there were a number of guys last year running Berts and full roller motors.  I know of at least 3 beside Rhed and Fuzzy

[cindy]

Find a race that suis your needs no matter want they Wii find something wrong to bitch about

[cindy]

Sorry push before looking at spelling but you know want to do

[greaseball]

The final rules are out. They cant even add deck and spoiler height, but there going to check casting # on blocks and valve angle on the heads .

If they want to tech my motor they can check the carb ,try to pump the motor I would even let them stick there scope up my motors ass. Unless there paying 10,000.00 to win the motor will not be tore down at that track !

[buckboard]

I agree grease ball. Apparently it's illegal to run your spoiler blade straight up?

[BRC27]

the Rules you're talking about are on there.  "Max" deck height 38"   "Max" spoiler 8"   With combined max height of 43".  It's all there!  if you want to run your spoiler at 90 degrees, then lower your deck height to 35"  nothing is stopping you.  Those were all max heights!  learn how to read before your rant on and on about Rules and not being clear.

[buckboard]

I was not ranting. I asked a question. But wouldn't it be easier to make a shorter blade if one wanted to run it straight up? I think it would be. But I was only asking a question. Didn't expect to get hollered at!
Have a great day sir.

[BRC27]

one would assume that it would be easier to decrease the height of the spoiler if you wanted to run it straight up and down.  however it would be less effective than an 8" spoiler.  so lowering your car or decreasing the deck height would allow you more down force.  As long as your spoiler was no more than 43" off the ground.

[rsadiedog]

I certainly hope that the 43" is a typo. It should read 46" just like the steel blocks. The deck height is pretty standard on today's late models, with that I mean if you buy a rear deck support manufactured by rocket, masters, etc. you can raise them but when they are all the way down will put you around that 37 - 38 " in mark with car at ride height. Common sense is 38" deck + 8" spoiler = 46". I know that my car will not pass the 43" rule.

[The Legend]

And if the bar doesn't go low enough I know it sounds crazy but just take a 1/4" drill bit and make new holes !!! It really works !!! Show up at a Lucas race and tell them that's as low as your bar goes lol

[rsadiedog]

Your right you can drill new holes, but you will have to cut some material off the bottom most likely. But when you start dropping the deck it changes you deck cutouts for the rear down tubes. I guess my question is I just put a whole new deck and body on and the body is legal for every late model track around, why would they make a odd ball rule? Again I certainly hope this was a typo and I hope it gets clarified soon before others get done with their bodies.

[The Legend]

I forgot the fabricators building cars
For hummingbird are FAR more meticulous than me ....

[TOPGUNRACER]

It might not be a typo that might be the measurements of the tech guys car.Or It might be the marks on his walking stick that he measures with.

How does he expect to check valve angle by just pulling the valve cover ?

[714d]

If you're running 14 degree heads in this class, you are a loser even if you win every race. Of course, there's always that guy who is willing to do it. If you spend more than $5k on your motor, you are just throwing money away. That's the way the class is designed. Like every form of racing, it will be pushed to the extreme though. A competitive motor can be built for a couple grand, no problem.

[rsadiedog]

I forgot the fabricators building cars
For hummingbird are FAR more meticulous than me ....

Well yes I am meticulous about everything on my car. What I was Trying to say was that I don't think chassis manufactures are making their deck supports so high that you need to go hacking on them to lower them. If I buy a new car from a manufacture complete with the body do you think it would meet this rule? No. Most tracks follow Lucas or Woo body rules, so why make a bastard rule that doesn't fit the norm? This is supposed to be a simple transition class, ie. find a decent used roller, put a affordable engine and shocks on and race! JMO

[onefastcar]

That is slightly jacked up, why not just use the steel block max height rule?

[Walt Wimer]

Wondering, as a fan and a member of the media, are these "Semi-late" cars a limited Limited Late Model or a "super" Street Stock???  Sounds like a bastard class to me that doesn't fit with what is being run at other tracks???

 

GOOD RACING!!!

 

Walt

[superdirt]

The Hummingbird Semi-Lates rules are similar to Bedford Hagerstown Susquehanna Bedford Hesston Semi Lates with a few differences. A car could be built to be legal for both. Main differences are no adjustable shocks wet sump and cam lift rule at Hummingbird vs. head work wording at other tracks.

Edited by superdirt, 19 January 2016 - 12:46 AM.

[The Legend]

Making a rear t bar takes 15 minutes !! Chassis builders know most tracks don't stay on top of deck height so
They make them extra high. Plus the bar leans back so the length of your deck panels significantly effects the height. If the rule is 38" you shouldn't be right at 38 anyway . I don't consider lowering a deck brace " hacking " a car. It's no big fuking deal , either cut the fuking thing or take your car to a different track

[rsadiedog]

AGAIN my point is not the labor aspect, my point is why make a rule that does not adhere to the standard. One of the selling points of late models is for the most part other than motor rules they are the same everywhere unlike "stock" car rules.